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An Argument in Support of the Electoral College.

Greenbeard said:
The logic of the Founders doesn't apply to the modern EC. The modern EC functions contrary to virtually every rationale for the original EC laid out in Federalist #68.
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That will go over his head:lamo
 
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The argument for the electoral college in the modern era is mute. The North and South divide where slaves were counted as 3/5 no longer applies. Nor does the argument that the electorate cannot be trusted to make an informed decision, its 2018 the information age is here. Ditch this antiquated 17th century compromise.
 
yankintx said:
I agree with Walter Bagehot, the US Constitution is outdated and inflexible. Its time the electoral college be ousted in place of true democracy.
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mob rule is popular with the left-quantity over quality
 
Patrick Moynihan once said back in the 1960's or early 1970's that the 'middle class has lost the capacity to govern itself', and he looks very close to being right. We do have too many tiny states, and should reduce the number to regional entities, down to maybe 13 or so, and institute civics tests for voting; the tests can be divided among local, state, and Federal lines, with the last requiring passing all three; if you can pass the local civics test, you can vote in the local elections, pass both the local and state you get to vote in both of those, all three you get to vote in all three. Voting should require people at least knowing the basics about the offices they're voting for; if they don't they don't care enough about our govt. and the offices they're voting for to be voting on in the first place.

As for the electoral college, it's in place to limit mob rule and while not perfect is better than no safeguards at all. With a smaller number of states a more parliamentary type arrangement could be worked out. It's is indeed ridiculous that Wyoming or Rhode Island get two Senators, and such wildly off-kilter conditions need to be altered; it isn't 1787 any more.
 
yankintx said:
I agree with Walter Bagehot, the US Constitution is outdated and inflexible. Its time the electoral college be ousted in place of true democracy.
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Just convince 3/4 of the states to change the constitution
 
Zachariah said:
Patrick Moynihan once said back in the 1960's or early 1970's that the 'middle class has lost the capacity to govern itself', and he looks very close to being right. We do have too many tiny states, and should reduce the number to regional entities, down to maybe 13 or so, and institute civics tests for voting; the tests can be divided among local, state, and Federal lines, with the last requiring passing all three; if you can pass the local civics test, you can vote in the local elections, pass both the local and state you get to vote in both of those, all three you get to vote in all three. Voting should require people at least knowing the basics about the offices they're voting for; if they don't they don't care enough about our govt. and the offices they're voting for to be voting on in the first place.

As for the electoral college, it's in place to limit mob rule and while not perfect is better than no safeguards at all. With a smaller number of states a more parliamentary type arrangement could be worked out. It's is indeed ridiculous that Wyoming or Rhode Island get two Senators, and such wildly off-kilter conditions need to be altered; it isn't 1787 any more.
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Educational polling for voting was ruled unconstitutional a long time ago. There is no way to pass that and even if you did, it would not be supported or enforced by any branch.
 
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