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    Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    A few years ago a thoughtful history professor was talking about the constitutional convention was about property rights (1789); versus the American of the 1770's about the rights of liberty. I have to agree with her, the balk of the core of the constitution of 1789 is about property rights. Having a Congress, a President and the federal courts does protect property rights. Because it is a foolish idea to take away a persons property when you need the blessing of the Congress and the courts. I leave off the president of the United States of America with this issue, as the president has to follow the laws of Congress.

    If I had property in the 1780's, I need a strong central government to defend my property rights. Nobody wanted another problem like South Carolina were Liverpool and London was selling the same property (1770's) and both parties were in debate. If they lost the land, they would go to debaters prison. With lands in the mid-west states claimed the same land as other states. The upside of a strong federal government, it can make deals with states to have western boarders, and sell the lands to the west to pay down the American War debate.
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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    well, let's look at the participants of the constitutional convention ............... they were ..................

    *English

    *white

    *male

    put yourself in their shoes in that time; what would you want in a 'new world' being English & white & male?

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    well, let's look at the participants of the constitutional convention ............... they were ..................

    *English

    *white

    *male

    put yourself in their shoes in that time; what would you want in a 'new world' being English & white & male?
    The Bill of Rights, had nothing to do with their race or their gender, but it did have a lot to do with their country of origin and their not wanting to repeat the government tyranny of English rule.
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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    well, let's look at the participants of the constitutional convention ............... they were ..................

    *English

    *white

    *male

    put yourself in their shoes in that time; what would you want in a 'new world' being English & white & male?
    FFS... Is it too much to ask that you put the GD race card down for 2 seconds and attempt an intelligent response to the op?

    This kind of non-stop, race baiting, identity politics does nothing but fuel racial division and is slowly but surely destroying this country... And you couldn't care any less.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    FFS... Is it too much to ask that you put the GD race card down for 2 seconds and attempt an intelligent response to the op?

    This kind of non-stop, race baiting, identity politics does nothing but fuel racial division and is slowly but surely destroying this country... And you couldn't care any less.

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    the constitution from 1787 allowed *white* *male* property owners to vote.

    At the time of the first Presidential election in 1789, only 6 percent of the population–white, male property owners were eligible to vote.
    The Fifteenth Amendment extended the right to vote to former male slaves in 1870.
    American Indians gained the vote under a law passed by Congress in 1924.

    not about race; OK ................... next .........


    what about women; when were they finally allowed to vote?

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    The Bill of Rights, had nothing to do with their race or their gender, but it did have a lot to do with their country of origin and their not wanting to repeat the government tyranny of English rule.
    The Bill of Rights was passed by the first Congress, and it was for federal laws. My point is with the constitution was the body of the document without the Bill of Rights.
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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention about property rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by cuban smokes View Post
    the constitution from 1787 allowed *white* *male* property owners to vote.

    At the time of the first Presidential election in 1789, only 6 percent of the population–white, male property owners were eligible to vote.
    The Fifteenth Amendment extended the right to vote to former male slaves in 1870.
    American Indians gained the vote under a law passed by Congress in 1924.

    not about race; OK ................... next .........


    what about women; when were they finally allowed to vote?
    Yes, for a number of states that only white males and property owners could vote. The constitution did not say (1789) about white males voting. The people voting to accept or reject was in a number of states, only white males with property ownership. How it was passed with them was accidental
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