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The 2nd Amendment is Archaic, change my mind

ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

Thoughts?
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I am not going to attempt to change your mind. I like my right as enumerated just fine and I think it is not archaic. If you want to change it convince 3/4s of the states. Good luck with that.
 
Big Ed said:
It's difficult to accept another view, if you've never seen it. The US Constitution has been amended many times, but, to my knowledge, only one (Amendment) has ever been repealed.
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Yep, and the amendment repealed was intended to restrict freedom not to prevent it from being infringed.
 
vegas giants said:
Gun control. You have heard of it?

What is your plan to reduce gun deaths and what state or country is using it now successfully?
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I don't care how many people die, you want to change the constitution get 3/4's of the states. Otherwise piss off.
 
Not my job to change your mind...and not my concern.

Like it or hate it, the 2A is a fact of life and here to stay.
 
vegas giants said:
Gun control. You have heard of it?

What is your plan to reduce gun deaths and what state or country is using it now successfully?
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Gun control is a blanket term and not an actual policy. Do you have any actual policies that you support? Saying we need "gun control" is like saying there is "systemic racism". Shouting vague platitudes is rather pointless, it helps to be specific in the message you are trying to get across.
 
ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

Thoughts?
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That would be one of a list of civil rights for which the left has lost enthusiasm. I'd say at the core of it is a distrust of normal, ordinary people among pinheads who attend expensive universities.
 
ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

Thoughts?
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Here's my thoughts...you are ignorant to history. The 2nd amendment, and the constitution in general, would be the very same document if written today by the same caliber of men who wrote it then.

I was once asked "if our constitution is so great, why haven't other nations adopted a similar one?" Well, people in power will NEVER hand that much power over to the people.


I'm not even sure that you're aware of the story behind the formation of the constitution...in fact, I'm sure that you're not.
 
ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

Thoughts?
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It's here to stay. The supreme court says it's an individual right. If you believe it's no longer feasible that is your issue.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
 
PirateMk1 said:
I don't care how many people die, you want to change the constitution get 3/4's of the states. Otherwise piss off.
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No need. Pass the laws and let scotus decide
 
Nap said:
Gun control is a blanket term and not an actual policy. Do you have any actual policies that you support? Saying we need "gun control" is like saying there is "systemic racism". Shouting vague platitudes is rather pointless, it helps to be specific in the message you are trying to get across.
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Yes I have very specific policies I have detailed many times. But only to someone who also puts up their plan to reduce gun deaths. I am happy to match my plan with yours
 
ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

Thoughts?
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Archaic is the notion that Govt should be solely responsible for the personal protection of its citizens, and how exactly are you a Libertarian ? Modern Liberals have openly embraced authoritarianism, which of-course is archaic and regressive
 
Big Ed said:
If you find the American Constitution so abhorrible, there are plenty of other countries you can move to. I'd bet you a soda that after a short while of living in one of your socialistic countries, you would be begging to come back to America!
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That depends on age. If you're retired, living in a third world country can raise your standard of living.
 
LowDown said:
Most gun deaths are suicides. Got any statistics on gun murders?
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He wouldnt want to talk about gun murders, because once you start talking Gun murders, you are talking about black Americans...and leftists dont have the stomach, will, or frankly...give enough of a **** about them to deal with that as a problem.
 
vegas giants said:
Yes I have very specific policies I have detailed many times. But only to someone who also puts up their plan to reduce gun deaths. I am happy to match my plan with yours
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Gun deaths are largely the symptoms of other prominent issues within society, in particular suicide and the war on drugs. Going after guns rather than addressing the actual issue is like putting a bandaid on an infected wound, sure it may curb some of the bleeding but it doesn't effectively address the issue.
 
Nap said:
Gun deaths are largely the symptoms of other prominent issues within society, in particular suicide and the war on drugs. Going after guns rather than addressing the actual issue is like putting a bandaid on an infected wound, sure it may curb some of the bleeding but it doesn't effectively address the issue.
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Can you name a state or country that has low gun death and lax gun laws.
 
calamity said:
Except the actual founders of the, you know, constitution are quoted debating slave patrols.
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Whoops! Fail
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Wrong as usual.




ryzorsden said:
Title says it all my new friends. I am a firm believer that the 2nd Amendment as it is written is no longer feasible in 2018 America.

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The amendment is as relevant today as it was when made.


ryzorsden said:
Got him good bro! Facts don't care about his feelings lol.
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Got him good bro?
#1. iLOL Wrong.
#2 Even if you had been correct, the comment itself would still have been juvenile.

Facts? Hilarious. Just further confirmation your comments should be laughed at.


ryzorsden said:
All that you posted is fake news.
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iLOL
We can already see you do not understand what fake means, but do you also not know the difference between what he provided and news?
 
Obviously, not everyone agrees that they fully understand certain wordings in the amendment.

Now here is the most Bat-****-crazy interpretations so far- That the 2nd amendment was written as a safety valve for those who might choose to turn their guns on the government for whatever reason they can think of for whatever reason.

I mean come on people- do you really think our forefathers wanted to provide an out for those who would want to turn their guns on our own government or our own military or police- for any reason what-so-ever?

Only the stupidest people in America believe this- yet some cling to that idea like a tick on a dog!
 
calamity said:
The Second Amendment was a mistake. They enacted it to appease the slave states, who feared a black uprising.
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OK, now we are getting off out into the bushes!

The 2nd amendment was written in the days where most of our Army and defense were made up of farmers and silversmiths.

Farmers and silversmiths without a gun wouldn't have been any help to the Army, so they wanted to make sure that our citizens were allowed to have guns just in case they were called to duty.

But, we have a strong and very capable military that defends us now- so all you silversmiths and want-to-be Paul Revere's can put your muskets away!

The Military has got this thang!

But thanks anyway! LOL!
 
vegas giants said:
Can you name a state or country that has low gun death and lax gun laws.
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That depends on how you define lax gun laws and what you view as low gun deaths. Fact is that we live in the safest time in human history and 10k out 330+ million people is rather low in my opinion. For the vast majority of people gun violence is simply a nonissue as it only negatively impacts a very small segment of the population.
 
Nap said:
That depends on how you define lax gun laws and what you view as low gun deaths. Fact is that we live in the safest time in human history and 10k out 330+ million people is rather low in my opinion. For the vast majority of people gun violence is simply a nonissue as it only negatively impacts a very small segment of the population.
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Like the Parkland kids and on and on and on
 
Nap said:
That depends on how you define lax gun laws and what you view as low gun deaths. Fact is that we live in the safest time in human history and 10k out 330+ million people is rather low in my opinion. For the vast majority of people gun violence is simply a nonissue as it only negatively impacts a very small segment of the population.
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Terrorism negatively impacts almost no one in the US. But boy we spend a ton of money on it
 
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