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Flanders

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This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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Oh good grief, where did you find this sad sack Canadian example of American alt-right groupie-ism?

I'll respect your request not to participate in your discussion, because...well, because you clearly aren't interested in views from the Left, and I've got no problem with not invading a safe space / echo chamber, but I couldn't not apologize on behalf of my country for such a mortifying embarrassment having any association with Canada.

Sorry.
 
The problem today is that if you want someone to read and understand the Constitution you need to write it in 140 characters or less and post it from a Twitter account with at least a million followers.
 
Lutherf said:
The problem today is that if you want someone to read and understand the Constitution you need to write it in 140 characters or less and post it from a Twitter account with at least a million followers.
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and all the while, litter the Tweet with magical 'threats' from the fairy leader ..............
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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So you want no opinions that do not fall in line with yours, meaning you are not actually interested in discussion, which this site is supposed to be about.
May all those truly interested in actual discussion ignore you from here on....
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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So you should have just put on there that you want NO discussion and NO ideas that differ from your own. You aren't interested in discussion, you only want confirmation bias.
 
Good Idea!
 
Praxas said:
So you should have just put on there that you want NO discussion and NO ideas that differ from your own. You aren't interested in discussion, you only want confirmation bias.
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Maybe his new constitution should have rules about that! :lamo
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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And you know the liberals are going to cheat and put in there the ability to march conservatives to the ovens.
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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I would say something about free speech, the 2nd amendment, slavery, women's rights to vote, guns and fake news, but it doesn't look like you want to hear it.
 
chuckiechan said:
And you know the liberals are going to cheat and put in there the ability to march conservatives to the ovens.
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Just like conservatives are going to put in there the ability to have sex with minors, you know to support conservatives like Roy Moore. (Hey since you want to be ridiculous and all)
 
Flanders said:
In any event, a lib constitution will be a copy of the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added. [/B]
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I am a liberal. The constitution we currently have is just fine. Not sure what universe you're living in.
 
Flanders said:
EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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There is very little wrong with our Constitution, if anything the issue is both conservatives and liberals appealing to governance to go beyond their Constitutional bounds.

We do not need a rewrite either to account for these things the founders did not see coming, there is an existing mechanism to edit the Constitution if needed.

What is really needed is a removal of not just utilitarianism goals, but various examples of authoritarianism never granted to the Federal Government.
 
Lutherf said:
The problem today is that if you want someone to read and understand the Constitution you need to write it in 140 characters or less and post it from a Twitter account with at least a million followers.
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...and it doesn't even need to be written in properly constructed sentences. In fact, it doesn't even need to make sense. Donald Trump proves that.
 
MrWonka said:
I am a liberal. The constitution we currently have is just fine. Not sure what universe you're living in.
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If you go to the link in the OP, you'll find that universe. It's a small, dusty corner of the web inhabited by rather old right-wing fossils.
 
Lutherf said:
The problem today is that if you want someone to read and understand the Constitution you need to write it in 140 characters or less and post it from a Twitter account with at least a million followers.
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And use lots of emojis!
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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Change your attitude , Mr extreme conservative , be less judgmental and prejudiced. IF we really wish to pen a new Constitution, we MUST toss the liberal/conservative crap, we must place the people first...
 
Lutherf said:
The problem today is that if you want someone to read and understand the Constitution you need to write it in 140 characters or less and post it from a Twitter account with at least a million followers.
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To Lutherf: Readership is your concern not mine. I would rather have one conservative read my messages than give a million Democrats an education.

For the record the length of my messages is none of your business.

Casper said:
So you want no opinions that do not fall in line with yours, meaning you are not actually interested in discussion, which this site is supposed to be about.
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To Casper: I most certainly am:

discussion (noun)

1. Consideration of a subject by a group; an earnest conversation.

2. A formal discourse on a topic; an exposition.

exposition (noun)

1. A setting forth of meaning or intent.

2. a. A statement or rhetorical discourse intended to give information about or an explanation of difficult material. b. The art or technique of composing such discourses.

3. Music. a. The first part of a composition in sonata form that introduces the themes. b. The opening section of a fugue.

4. The part of a play that provides the background information needed to understand the characters and the action.

5. An act or example of exposing.

6. A public exhibition or show, as of artistic or industrial developments.
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If you want a debate say something I want to debate. As far as I know, there is no rule on any message board that says everyone has to debate everybody who responds to every thread. In plain English, I decide on which replies I debate. Not only is the decision mine, I debate whichever part of a reply that catches my attention.

Casper said:
May all those truly interested in actual discussion ignore you from here on....
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To Casper: Oh God! I truly hope so.

Praxas said:
So you should have just put on there that you want NO discussion and NO ideas that differ from your own. You aren't interested in discussion, you only want confirmation bias.
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To Praxas: You got that right. Most importantly, I do not want to make the case for my opposites. They can say whatever they have to say in a thread of their own.

NOTE: Democrats will never impose a Fairness Doctrine on the Internet as hard as they try to make everybody listen (read) their garbage.

chuckiechan said:
And you know the liberals are going to cheat and put in there the ability to march conservatives to the ovens.
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To chuckiechan: Exactly so. Their constitution will take personal attacks on message boards to their ovens.

MrWonka said:
I am a liberal. The constitution we currently have is just fine. Not sure what universe you're living in.
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To MrWonka: Of course it is just fine since liberals violate it at every opportunity?

earthworm said:
Change your attitude , Mr extreme conservative , be less judgmental and prejudiced.
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To earthworm: You can show me how by minding your own business and not judging me.

earthworm said:
IF we really wish to pen a new Constitution, we MUST toss the liberal/conservative crap, we must place the people first...
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To earthworm: Do not include me in your we.

Only kings, presidents, editors, and people with tapeworms have the right to use the editorial "we." Mark Twain
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Flanders said:
Of course, it is just fine since liberals violate it at every opportunity?
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The Supreme Court is responsible for interpreting these things, and yet even when you have a relatively conservative-leaning court they still tend to disagree with you. See you can read words all you want to, but if you don't have the mental capacity to understand them in the proper context it won't do you any good.
 
Too many people who call themselves conservatives are in reality authoritarians who harbor an absurd hostility toward freedom and even the democratic process itself.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
One thing I don't think you originally mentioned in the first post was the standing army and professional federal bureaucracy, the twin pillars of the "modern" state.

We used to have the bulk of our manpower come from calling up the state militiae; today it's a standing U.S. Armed Forces (that is technically unconstitutional if you read it carefully).

Might want to put something in your constitution about a budget process.
 
There is no question that I lean right, but if we don't include arguments from the left where would we be? Part of what makes this thing of ours work is balance. Could you picture us if only right wing ideas were law, if you can't you're part of the problem.

Just as all left wing laws would be insane, so is it for the right.,
 
Flanders said:
This is a terrific article. I will not include excerpts in the hope a few will read it:

Infallibility of our own version of Law unto ourselves and imposed on others?
By William R. Mann
May 9, 2018

https://canadafreepress.com/article...on-of-law-unto-ourselves-and-imposed-on-other​

Knowing about the Constitution and our Founders only goes so far. Perhaps better understanding will come by looking at the events and people the Founding Fathers could not have seen coming:

1. The United Nations.

2. Television.

3. The XVI Amendment.

4. The democracy movement financed by the XVI Amendment.

5. The Welfare State.

6. Open-Borders.

7. The education industry.

8. Woodrow Wilson.

9. William Jefferson Clinton.

10. Barack Obama.

EXERCISE: Write the U.S. Constitution the way the Founders would have written it had they known what was coming.

Conservatives are free to add to my list.

I cannot stop liberals from responding. I already know what they will say. So I should offer them a chance not to waste their time. There is not a thing they can say that I have not heard and debunked hundreds of times in the 18 years I have been posting on message boards. In any event a lib constitution will be a copy the U.N.’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights with taxation authority added.
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Wow, you should send your resume to the WH, just in case there is an opening on the Supreme Court. For sure it would get at least as much traction as the rest of the idiocy this administration is all about.
 
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