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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Atheist 2020 View Post
    When has anyone sued for civil rights, or human rights from the main body of the constitution of 1789?
    why not cut the BS, give the answer, and then tell us what your point and subject are???

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post

    What you see as liberty I see as the power of the rich over everyone else.
    1) we have capitalism so the rich have no power to even survive unless they please customers more than any competition anywhere in the world.
    Do you call, for example, having the best cancer cure in the world having power over everyone else???

    2) if you think having the best treatment for cancer gives the inventor too much power you are free under capitalism not to use that cure and use a less effective one or use no cure at all and die. And you are free to persuade everybody not to use the cure so the inventor won't have so much power

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post
    I want that power and that wealth to be restricted by a large, powerful, and expensive government that reflects majority opinion.
    if a company has the best cure for cancer you want govt to restrict their power and wealth so they cant develop more cures for cancer?? See why we say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post
    Government can increase the freedom of employees by restricting that of their employers.
    The pure beauty of capitalism is that if an employee does not feel he has enough freedom
    he is free to quit and sell his services to the highest bidder in the world offering him the most freedom. Similarly, if you feel a product does not afford you the freedom you want( eg a tractor is not good enough to give you the freedom you want) you are free to sell it and buy the one that gives you the most freedom.

    If the soviets intervene in 1000 places to get this and that result based on guesses rather the market place you end up with 120 million dead becuase the market place is rational while soviet guessing is not. I'm 100% sure that is way over your head! Oh well.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    The pure beauty of capitalism is that if an employee does not feel he has enough freedom
    he is free to quit and sell his services to the highest bidder in the world offering him the most freedom. Similarly, if you feel a product does not afford you the freedom you want( eg a tractor is not good enough to give you the freedom you want) you are free to sell it and buy the one that gives you the most freedom.

    If the soviets intervene in 1000 places to get this and that result based on guesses rather the market place you end up with 120 million dead becuase the market place is rational while soviet guessing is not. I'm 100% sure that is way over your head! Oh well.
    Few people have the ability to choose between job offers. They have to take what they can get.

    The Cold War is over. You no longer have the Soviet Union to serve as a horrible alternative to American capitalism. Now you have to explain why it is a better idea to cut taxes for the rich and corporations than it is to provide every American with decent health care.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post
    Few people have the ability to choose between job offers. They have to take what they can get.
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    of course that's submoronic and liberal. Someone with a MBA could have 1000 offers from McDonalds on up. Do you understand? About 4 million quit their jobs each month. A good worker at McDonalds could work at 1000's of fast food jobs all across America. If people had to take one job everyone would make $10/hour. Liberalism is always based in pure ignorance!

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post

    The Cold War is over. You no longer have the Soviet Union to serve as a horrible alternative to American capitalism.
    1) it was only a war because our liberals were half communist. Had they been capitalist and educated the world accordingly there never would have been communism. But there are plenty of alternatives to Republican Capitalism. Ask Bernie Sanders, an open communist who is not bothered by 120 million dead!

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmartCat View Post
    Now you have to explain why it is a better idea to cut taxes for the rich and corporations than it is to provide every American with decent health care.
    1) taxes have not been cut. Top 1% pay 44% of money income collected by IRS

    2) America is a free country so you don't get to steal from others to buy your health care and vacations

    3) if you do use govt for legal violent theft you discourage victim and criminal from working. This is how socialism killed 120 million. Do you understand now?

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