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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    don't be silly a coup does not have to be violent. The Founders tricked the American people with huge lies and got the Constitution ratified. Now do you understand?
    Lol buddy a coup pretty much by definition is violent.

    No, the American people understood that things were working just as much as the founders did. That’s another part of why we had start over in the first place.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    freedom from central govt is unworkable only if you are a libcommie
    *cough cough Somalia

    Without the reworking to create a goverment that had some actual power there wouldn’t be a United States today.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    if they had to why was it so necessary to tell the biggest lies to get Constitution passed??
    They didn’t “have to tell the biggest lies”. That’s a fairy tale you made up.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    why not a coup??

    a notable or successful stroke or move.
    "it was a major coup to get such a prestigious contract"
    synonyms: success, triumph, feat, accomplishment, achievement, scoop, master stroke, stroke of genius
    "a major publishing coup"
    Is that really the definition that you were using?

    It really sounded like you were using this one: a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
    "he was overthrown in an army coup"
    synonyms: seizure of power, coup d'état, putsch, overthrow, takeover, deposition;


    I think that you were using the 1st definition and now are backpedaling. I mean just reading your OP the second definition makes no sense.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    correct!! and rather than revise them they scrapped them altogether and then told huge huge lies to get their Constitution passed in perhaps the greatest coup in world history!


    Madison ,Federalist #40
    "The truth is, that the great principles of the Constitution proposed by the convention may be considered less as absolutely new, than as the expansion of principles which are found in the Articles of Confederation" The Constitution was supposed to simply be an extension of the Virginia Compact and the Annapolis Convention which were primarily designed to promote free trade among the states.

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    Articles worked well which is why most supported it. It won the Revolution and secured a
    peace treaty with land all the way to Mississipi, state govts were established, voting franchise greatly extended, freguent elections, separation of church and state, beginning of abilition of slavery in northern states, expansion of education and literacy, establishment of State Bills of Rights, patterns of expansion with NW Ordinances established, ( all westen land to Fed was to be divideded and sold for $1 per acre, self rule, and admission to union when population was 60,000, freedom of worship, trial by jury, no slavery, trade opened with Europe and Asia, loans secured to US from foreign powers.

    Additionally, many did not even attend Constitutional convention like Jefferson Adams Henry, and only 33 of 59 who did attend signed it.
    Jefferson didn't attend because he was in France as the foreign minister in France, Adams didn't attend because he was the foreign minister in Great Britain and was in GB at the time. The only State that didn't send any delegates was Rhode Island, why, Rhode Island was afraid it would lose it power as a State, due to being the smallest State.
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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    Washington was a Federalist; his party was driven out of existence as soon as the country was formed because he wanted a strong central govt !
    Don't think you're gonna see small government in the US ever again. Better live with it.
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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Don't think you're gonna see small government in the US ever again. Better live with it.
    And that is a good thing, because the ravings of the uneducated primitive thinkers would turn this nation back to the stone age.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    No James, the Federalist Party didn't break up until the 1820s.

    A coup doesn't have to end up BEING violent; but it does have to use the THREAT of force, typically actual violence.

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terryj View Post
    They couldn't get any support to amend any Articles because the AoC required 100% support from the States to amend it and it seemed that this was not going to happen.
    why not you said everybody knew Articles were not working??????????????????

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    Re: Was the Constitutional Convention really a Coup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerace117 View Post
    Lol buddy a coup pretty much by definition is violent.

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    a notable or successful stroke or move.
    "it was a major coup to get such a prestigious contract"
    synonyms: success, triumph, feat, accomplishment, achievement, scoop, master stroke, stroke of genius
    "a major publishing coup"

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