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Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?
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There are plenty, and you, Night Ranger, are in charge of nothing.
You simply sit with James on a throne of lies.
You simply sit with James on a throne of lies.
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What lies? Care to list any?
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You and "general" versus "common"
Until you can prove you know what these terms mean by giving an example of what would be a "general" policy versus what would be a "common" policy, please stop regurgitating this meaningless drivel.
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Or should, until such times as you're studied constitutional matters sufficiently
Where's your source for 8 million ?
The Holocaust was a pretty conservative policy wouldn't you say, hardly libertarian
Source ?
And what socialist policies did Mussolini have ?
Correct, the name (National Socialist and German Workers Party - NSDAP) was to broaden their appeal to German workers in the post First World War era
The fought the socialist of the Social Democratic Party and the communists in the streets of Germany
What quotes
What "socialist" policies when Hitler was in power
Was there any state ownership of banks, industrial companies etc ?
No it was short for NSDAP - see above. The name was a misnomer and intended to broaden the appeal of the infant party. I am guessing you have never studied politics and couldn't define the Corporate State.
Was not the Mercedes car company a free enterprise ?
How about the Krupp Steel Company ?
Or the Rheinmetall Company ?
OMG there's the problem...you're a rabid Republican
The US Democrat party is a capitalist party, the nationalistic party the shares most similarities with the Nazis is the Republican party
Excluding the military, Hitlers peacetime government was SMALL
No they didn't. The Nazi's expelled Jews through ultra conservative racial policies and that meant Jewish property was seized
Ultra conservative policies
You see Trump do a milder version of this today without the overt racism
What is "Social Darwinism" Btw ?
Sorry all of that is meaningless drivel
Yes they were ultra nationalists, ultra conservatives
Yaaaaawn
You're just another Nuremberg-esqe Trump Republican rally goer. The Nazis had their brown shirts, Trump has his MAGA hats.
Next you'll say Trump is a good president instead of the absolute worst ever, an outright criminal and totally unfit for any public office.
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Hitler was not a socialist, never uttered a word promoting socialist practices and when in power never enacted any socialist policies.
QED: Hitler was no socialist - he was in bed with German capitalists.
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General must cover any contingency. It is not the Limited welfare or the common welfare.
The Common welfare pertains to the Common law, via that branch of Government.
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That is meaningless drivel
Give an example of what a "common" welfare policy would be versus an example of what a "general" welfare policy would be.
You can't
Because you really don't understand what the terms actually mean.
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Rich2018 rules the dummies on the right.
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lol. solving simple poverty via market friendly means could be legislated by the legislature in a general manner.
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Six words and a meme... can't get much worse than that in terms of pure ignorance. Considering my initial response was well over three pages long.
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Source is about the average of what you will hear from both the left and the right give or take a couple million. In any event, Hilter decided to exterminate the Jews for apparently no reason...(There is more to that statement but I'm doubting you'll be able to pick up on it.)
Conservative policy? When was the last time conservative policy ended in genocide? Might want to look at the genocides associated with socialism first. Abortion? legal liberal genocide.
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Derrr.. Italy was socialist before it was fascist and Mussolini was their leader in both cases. There was and is no question that Italy was a socialist state under his direction. There is no doubt about it. Fascism was borne out of socialism.
Mussolini was also a leading member of the National Directorate of the Italian Socialist Party at one time.
The facts are indisputable: We have it from the horses mouth that Mussolini was a socialist both before and after his stint with fascism. Ergo, it would have been impossible for fascism to be a right wing, conservative ideology. Unless of course if Mussolini was a socialist who had a political conversion that flipped his entire political perception to right wing, and then, when he was done with that, had another spiritual awakening and renounced his new found love of conservative right wing politics to become a socialist again.
But that's impossible too.
Because Mussolini's quote clearly states that he was socialist in the past and a socialist in the present. And he then goes on to scold people for thinking is personal ideology had ever "wavered" at any point (making any attempt to argue he switched parties and ideologies preposterous.) So there was no flip flop after all. Thereby making it impossible for fascism to be a right wing ideology.
Any rational thinking human being knows there is no rebuttal to this evidence.
As quoted in “Soliloquy for ‘freedom’ Trimellone island”, on the Italian Island of Trimelone, journalist Ivanoe Fossani, one of the last interviews of Mussolini, March 20, 1945, from Opera omnia, vol. 32. Interview is also known as "Testament of Benito Mussolini.
Sure, what ever you say. But there is another piece of evidence you are going to have to worm your way out of: The "Workers Party" phrase was used exclusively by socialist/communist political parties at that time. So that's two references to socialism in their name alone! Don't believe me? Try finding a single political party with "workers party" in their name that WASNT SOCIALIST OR COMMUNIST.
But you forgot to clarify: It wasn't the socialist/communist population of the nation that was targeted, it was the competing political parties in Germany that Hitler saw as a major threat to his power. So he rounded up all their leadership and had them killed to eliminate any political upset.
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The only arguments against Hitler's government being anything but socialist usually revolve around the privatized economy that Germany had in those days and claiming this as evidence against socialism. But what people fail to remember is that Germany's economy under the Nazi regime was privatized in name only. Production and demand was enforced with the barrel of a gun, if needed. Effectively making owners nothing more than office managers. Couple this with Hitler's love of fascism and it becomes clear exactly what they were doing with the economy, and it had nothing to do with legitimate capitalism.
The term "Nazi" was not a misnomer, and there was no effort to broaden the appeal by calling themselves socialists when they actually weren't.
The word Nazi is short for Nationalsozialist (supporter of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) in the German language. This means "National Socialist German Workers' Party".
All manufacturing and production in Germany was managed by the Nazi party, so no, at that time those businesses were nothing close to being free enterprise.
But why on earth did they want to kill the Jews?
Trump is doing nothing of the kind.
The definition of social Darwinism: the theory that individuals, groups, and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now largely discredited, social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and early 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism and to discourage intervention and reform.
Obama was the worst president in History. Trump is second only to Lincoln and a select few (who were all conservatives, by the way)
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First, I think the stable genius would rank himself above Lincoln. Second, saying it doesn’t make it so. Obama had the Iran deal with our allies, millions more insured and the GOP now on board, as merely wanting to replace it with something supposedly better, the Paris agreement, and the respect of the world. In one of Trumps first speeches before international representatives they laughed at him after his first few words.
But Trump did break with tradition and proposed that US forces commit war crimes, and pardoned those who had. You can take comfort in that.
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This coming from a guy who is 100% brainwashed.
When was the last time your got your news from anyone other than the liberal media?
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I can't believe I am humoring this depravity but so be it.
Fascism was defined by what politician? In other words, who invented fascism?
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Mussolini as you well know
What you forget (ie remain intentionally ignorant about) is that he left socialism founded fascism and attacked socialism
By your moronic non thinking illogic George Washington was a loyalist to the British cause because he once served in the British army
Ae you a sock for James? Because you see as miseducated on literally every topic as he is.
If not the education system is in far worse shape than anyone ever thought
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Fascism was not "invented" by a single person. There were several philosophers, academics, politicians, and even a poet who may be viewed as forerunners of the philosophy of fascism. In late 19th century France, Charles Maurras and George Sorel's works influenced various individuals in France, Germany and Italy. Enrico Corradini and Tommaso Marinetti expanded upon the thoughts of Maurras and Sorel. With the outbreak of war in 1914, German sociologist Johann Plenge spoke of the rise of a "National Socialism", fusing together the ideas of the French and Italians and attacking the philosophy of the French Revolution which had promoted the ideas of rights of man, democracy, individualism and liberalism Plenge believed that racial solidarity (Volksgemeinschaft) and the true "German values" of duty, discipline, law and order would replace class division and that "racial comrades" would unite.
Hitler opened the first concentration camp in Feb 1933, not for those of the Jewish faith but for "political opponents", which included liberals, communists, socialists and labour organizers. Funny, don't you think, that the first people persecuted by the Nazis were what one might label as "leftists".
I do wonder if Jonah Goldberg's silly little book Liberal Fascism is the source for your views on fascism.
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jimmie - when you provide a quote, you should also give us a link to the site you copied from.
"( page 11 )"??
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Sorry conservatives, traditionalists or patriots, whatever you call yourselves. You're not getting your slaves back.
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You keep saying that but you're unable to give an example of a "general" welfare policy versus what would be an example of a "common" welfare policy.
Until you can, why do you keep posting meaningless statements that you don't understand ?
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So your "source" is not only hearsay, it's just what you've heard and you have absolutely no credible data you can point to ?
Your attachment doesn't work Btw
You mean not "apparent" to you with your HIGHLY limited knowlege based on popular myth and hearsay rather than knowledge?
Conservative policy? When was the last time conservative policy ended in genocide? Might want to look at the genocides associated with socialism first. Abortion? legal liberal genocide.
Please can you give examples of Musso,lini's "socialist" policies that prove Italy was a socialist county under his government ?
So far your postings have been devoid of any sources to back up your claims
Then can you give a source to these facts to back up your unsubstantiated claims - what policies did Mussolini have that marked him out as leading a socialist government ?
What "evidence"
I'm not intesrested in your revisionist historical claims but your sources, of which you've not given any.
As I told you, the NSDAP, called themselves "National Socialists" to broaden their electoral appeal, not because the had any or supported any socialist policies. They did not. What you think think you know is wrong as your futile attempts to search the "Net are probably telling you.
In fact quite the reverse and their bully-boys (the SA) fought the German socialist and communist parties' supporters in the streets.
The Nazis fought for control over the streets in Germany to gain power.
Do you even know what you're talking about? Would it be the Night of the Long Knives when the Nazis curbed the power of the SA which was over 3 million strong ? They settled some scores and some people were killed. Chief amongst them was Ernst Rohm.
What are you referring to when you claim the Nazis "rounded up" political opponents ?
Well the existence of a private sector economy would give lie to the claim that Nazi Germany was "socialist"
Where did you invent this claim from?
Source please - though your posts are devoid of any references so nobody will be holding their breath
No it wasn't
You really don't know anything do you ?
Source please.
Yes, he's stirring up nationalism like the Nazi did and creating a league of blind followers wrapping themselves in a stars and stripes flag. He even adorns them with a red baseball cap in lieu of a brown shirt.
Darwinism refers to how living things change over time - biologically. That's all.
:lamo
Trump is 44th out of all 44 presidents as the absolute worst.
Obama was one of the best with JFK, FDR and probably Clinton.
Trump has been a total and absolute DISASTER as president (outside his own legion of MAGA hat wearing SA) which is why the world mocks and reviles him in equal measure.
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Mussolini is generally viewed as the father of Fascism.
Leftists love to point out that Hilter rounded up communists and socialists to offer up a very flawed example of why Fascism is a right wing ideology.
This couldn't be further from the truth. Hitler didn't target socialists or communists of the German population, he targeted the leadership of competing political parties in Germany that were a threat to his absolute authority.