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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    You do "know" that was changed by SCOTUS shortly after the signing, or do you? You neo-Third Reichers never have understood the concept of the Constitution, and its amendment properties. If not for the "liberals" slavery would still be a reality, not a historical event.
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    So libcommies can amend it to make it a Communist Constitution and not be guilty of fraud or treason???

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    So libcommies can amend it to make it a Communist Constitution and not be guilty of fraud or treason???
    Right wing neoNazi BS demonstrating their ignorance of history, and the intent of the Founders:

    https://www.constitutionfacts.com/co...dmarkCases.pdf

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    Right wing neoNazi BS demonstrating their ignorance of history, and the intent of the Founders:

    https://www.constitutionfacts.com/co...dmarkCases.pdf
    why not try to tell us how libcommies can turn our Constitution into a Communist document without fraud or treason.

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    sure but it has nothing to do with OP which is about whether Constitution makes liberalism( ie big govt) illegal. Do you understand?
    All I know is that the founders would be horrified by a Govt. run by billionaires. They hated the rich and did everything in their power to avoid what we have today...a Govt. bought and paid for by the wealthy and corporations. The believed all assets should revert to the State after death because they did not want dynasties like in Europe. They believed the wealthy would destroy our Republic and they were right.

    Even stalwart members of the latter-day Republican Party, the representatives of business and inherited wealth, often emphatically embraced these tenets of economic equality in a democracy. I've mentioned Herbert Hoover's disdain for the "idle rich" and his strong support for breaking up large fortunes. Theodore Roosevelt, who was the first president to propose a steeply graduated tax on inheritances, was another: he declared that the transmission of large wealth to young men "does not do them any real service and is of great and genuine detriment to the community at large.''
    https://www.economist.com/blogs/lexi...unding_fathers
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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    All I know is that the founders would be horrified by a Govt. run by billionaires.
    can you name the billionaires who run our govt and tell us when they took over??

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    They hated the rich and did everything in their power to avoid what we have today...a Govt. bought and paid for by the wealthy and corporations.]
    1) actually our Founders were the rich 1+1=2

    2) if you have evidence that they did everything in their power to avoid wealthy and corporations I will pay you $10,000

    3) would you rather have poor and unemployed run country??

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    1) actually our Founders were the rich 1+1=2

    2) if you have evidence that they did everything in their power to avoid wealthy and corporations I will pay you $10,000

    3) would you rather have poor and unemployed run country??
    In response to jimmie's all too common inanity and yet once again seemingly willful denial of real history:
    1) Actually, only some of the Founders were rich, not all of them

    2) Initially corporations were only allowed to exist for one year at a time, though this limit became extended to as long as 10 years under some state constitutions.
    • Corporate charters (licenses to exist) were granted for a limited time and could be revoked promptly for violating laws.
    • Corporations could engage only in activities necessary to fulfill their chartered purpose.
    • Corporations could not own stock in other corporations nor own any property that was not essential to fulfilling their chartered purpose.
    • There were instances in which corporations were shut down if they performed actions not granted under their charter or when their labour caused public harm.
    • Owners and managers were responsible for criminal acts committed by employees while at work.
    • Corporations could not make any political or charitable contributions nor spend money to influence law-making.


    Until the years following the Civil War, legislators maintained tight control over the corporate chartering process. Owing to widespread public opposition, legislators granted very few corporate charters, often following extended debate in the legislatures over the necessity. Corporations were controlled by mandated conditions found in the charters granted by the state in which they operated. Other requirements and restrictions were found in state constitutions and state laws. Incorporated businesses were prohibited from taking any action that legislators did not specifically allow; for example, a company granted a charter for steel working could not also own or run mines providing coal or iron ore.

    Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders. Unfortunately for Americans, the system of corporate governance began to change during the Civil War and the immediate years following as corporations enriched by government contracts began to spend just a bit of their profits on what we know today as lobbying.

    jimmie, we all know you will never pay anyone $10000, no matter how many times you are shown to be in error, so please - stop typing those words.

    3) In a more equal and just society, we wouldn't have people working full time jobs who can't afford housing or nutritious meals or proper medical care.
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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    1) Actually, only some of the Founders were rich, not all of them
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    you said the last thing they wanted was for the rich and powerful to come to power when most of the Founders were rich and powerful. Goofy? As if they wanted the poor and impotent to come to power when they only let rich white men vote. Slow?? Liberal?

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post

    2) Initially corporations were only allowed to exist for one year at a time, though this limit became extended to as long as 10 years under some state constitutions.
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    100% absurd of course, corporations then were govt monopolies so of course our freedom loving founders feared them. Today they are slaves to us competing to provide us the best jobs and products in the world just to survive. Do you understand?

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    Re: Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Unless a legislature renewed an expiring charter, the corporation was dissolved and its assets were divided among shareholders..
    Are you a communist? It killed 120 million human souls. Can you imagine monster libturd bureaucrats running a monster commie ministry trying to decide how to manage 30 million American corporations? Would you like to see liberals starve another 120 million starve to death?

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