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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Its also nice that a couple of dense population centers do not get to hold the other 90% of the country hostage with whatever coyote acme scheme they come up with.
    Yep. Instead the country is held hostage to a small number of swing states.
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't really want to get rid of the electoral college. what i would like to see is the elimination of gerrymandering nationwide, and i also support a national primary day. all primary and general election votes should count, and no politician should be able to participate in the drawing of his or her own district. these points are not contestable.
    It is up to states how their districts are drawn. Federal government has nothing to do with it.
    Petition your state to change it.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Yep. Instead the country is held hostage to a small number of swing states.
    This last election proved otherwise.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Absent Gerrymandering, how do you propose that Congressional districts be drawn?
    by a computer, using only census generated population density data.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't really want to get rid of the electoral college. what i would like to see is the elimination of gerrymandering nationwide, and i also support a national primary day. all primary and general election votes should count, and no politician should be able to participate in the drawing of his or her own district. these points are not contestable.
    I just do not see a viable replacement for gerrymandering. Reapportionment is a necessity. And unless someone can come up with a viable way to accomplish reapportionment objectively and without partisan advantage, gerrymandering should remain. At least the it gives the advantage based on state legislative elections.
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    It is up to states how their districts are drawn. Federal government has nothing to do with it.
    Petition your state to change it.
    it should be mandated at the federal level.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Its also nice that a couple of dense population centers do not get to hold the other 90% of the country hostage with whatever coyote acme scheme they come up with.
    That is exactly what happens when it comes to surface transportation funding and spending. Those that pay the most taxes (motor fuels and vehicle registration) get the least back.

    Diversions from Highway Spending. Congress and the states divert roughly 25 percent of the Highway Trust Fund spending to non-highway projects that are not federal priorities.[12] The largest of these diversions is the Mass Transit Account, which spent some $8 billion in 2014 on buses, rail, streetcars, and other projects that should fall under the responsibility of municipal or state governments. Other programs include the Transportation Alternatives Program, which spent $820 million in 2014 on undertakings such as sidewalks, bike paths, scenic overlooks, vegetation management, and recreational trails.[13] These diversions sap funds that could be spent on the highway system—the purpose of the highway trust fund—and shortchange the motorists and shippers that pay directly into the system through fuel taxes.
    Highway Trust Fund Basics: A Primer on Federal Surface Transportation Spending | The Heritage Foundation
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I just do not see a viable replacement for gerrymandering. Reapportionment is a necessity. And unless someone can come up with a viable way to accomplish reapportionment objectively and without partisan advantage, gerrymandering should remain. At least the it gives the advantage based on state legislative elections.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    by a computer, using only census generated population density data.
    That could still be manipulated by parties in power.
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it should be mandated at the federal level.
    No....actually it shouldnt. The House Representatives are elected by the voters in the individual states. Why should the feds have any control over it? That is a power relegated to the states, not the feds.
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