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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    But by doing that you basically saying that votes of Americans living in urban areas and more populous states counts less than those in rural America. Why should the minority of Americans be able to force their policies on the majority? Whether you like it or not the US is an urbanized country by a large margin and will only get bigger.
    All the urbanites need do, then, is amend the Constitution.

    The Founders addressed the NEED for the Electoral College in the Federalist Papers.
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    So you admit that you like the Electoral College because it gives the minority more influence over the Presidential Election not because more people agree with Conservative politics but rather Conservatives just spread themselves out better than the majority voters?
    I don't think it does

    Today, each state has a number of electors equal to the number of its U.S. senators (two in each state) plus the number of its U.S. representatives, which varies according to the state's population. For example, Kansas has two senators and four U.S. representatives for a total of six electoral votes.

    Overall, the Electoral College includes 538 electors, 535 for the total number of congressional members, and three who represent Washington, D.C., as allowed by the 23rd Amendment. In the 2016 presidential election, highly populated California had the most sway with 55 electoral votes; other less populated states, such as Montana, had as few as three electoral votes [source: CNN].

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    That's exactly my point. Why do Republican voters (the minority in the 2016 election) get to decide the Presidential election while the majority of voters are punished just simply testament to the fact they live in large, dense areas?
    A double whammy! You'd think that living in those areas would be punishment enough!
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Priceless!
    Not everyone will understand that reference but it reminds me of trump and the media.

    Thank you

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPancake View Post
    That's exactly my point. Why do Republican voters (the minority in the 2016 election) get to decide the Presidential election while the majority of voters are punished just simply testament to the fact they live in large, dense areas?
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    i don't really want to get rid of the electoral college. what i would like to see is the elimination of gerrymandering nationwide, and i also support a national primary day. all primary and general election votes should count, and no politician should be able to participate in the drawing of his or her own district. these points are not contestable.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Not everyone will understand that reference but it reminds me of trump and the media.

    Absofreakinlutely BRILLIANT!
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't really want to get rid of the electoral college. what i would like to see is the elimination of gerrymandering nationwide, and i also support a national primary day. all primary and general election votes should count, and no politician should be able to participate in the drawing of his or her own district. these points are not contestable.
    Absent Gerrymandering, how do you propose that Congressional districts be drawn?
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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    But by doing that you basically saying that votes of Americans living in urban areas and more populous states counts less than those in rural America. Why should the minority of Americans be able to force their policies on the majority? Whether you like it or not the US is an urbanized country by a large margin and will only get bigger.
    They don't count for less. They count as 1 vote in their state.
    Most states only get 1 rep because all states get one rep.

    Actually it is the majority of people in each states that determine the election.

    Now if you don't like how you state hands out EC's then petition them to change it.

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    Re: Why the Electoral College exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Its also nice that a couple of dense population centers do not get to hold the other 90% of the country hostage with whatever coyote acme scheme they come up with.
    Anything that Wily ordered from ACME would be a stark improvement on the situation we are now saddle with!

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