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    Re: Article 5 Convention of the States

    or by conventions in three fourths thereof
    Quote Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
    3/4 not majority.
    And the way "OR" is positioned, 3/4 of the states having conventions within, can propose and ratify without congress calling a convention.

    Because of their not calling one in 1911, when the states wanted to stop the federal reserve act, and all the intentional misinterpretations of A5 itself, it's easy to deduce that congress has been waiting for the corporatocracy to corrupt enough states to call one with the chance of amending in favor of corporate profits and forget the people or environmental issues.

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    Re: Article 5 Convention of the States

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    So, what are your charges? What is the reason you support a dismantling of our founding documents?
    I don't see anything in what Goshin posted indicating he advocates anything like that.

    Please explain yourself, your misrepresentation.

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    Re: Article 5 Convention of the States

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Some of you are familiar with this I'm sure.

    I've been opposed to it to this point, feeling it was too risky and that we could not be sure what we would get out of such a convention.


    I've changed my mind. We're past the point where the system-as-is can be reformed without drastic measures, and the current polarization is severely damaging our sense of self as a nation united. The Fedgov will not reform or reduce its power in and of its own action; may not be capable of it.

    The States however, may have the power.

    We're at a point where both sides fear the other side holding power in DC to an unprecedented degree, a time when liberties some consider essential can hang in the balance of a single SCOTUS appointment.

    The Fedgov was never supposed to be so powerful.

    We can continue to live where the 51% dictate to the 49%, who become more miserable, resentful and rebellious as it progresses (and it will get worse, gov's exist to gather more power to themselves) or we can make changes.

    If we continue as we are, we're like a pressure cooker with the heat dialing up.

    I've decided to support the Article V Convention as an alternative to ongoing disaster.

    https://www.conventionofstates.com/
    The way I see this post and Goshins position is that he has realized that politics as usual are not going to be able to stabilize the nation and protect rights with freedom. Or, secure our futures.

    Which is appropriate, but, is there an awareness of what ALEC has been doing for 27 years or more?

    A Billionaire-Backed 'Movement' Is Dangerously Close to Calling a Constitutional Convention | Alternet

    Kochs Bankroll Move to Rewrite the Constitution | PR Watch

    Corporate America Is Just 6 States Short of a Constitutional Convention - In These Times

    I've been studying this potential for 6 years and finally consolidated the documentation on one page.

    The threat of hijacking to Article V - ALEC

    Caution and common sense dictates we should prepare for the worst.
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    Re: Article 5 Convention of the States

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisABrown View Post
    I don't see anything in what Goshin posted indicating he advocates anything like that.

    Please explain yourself, your misrepresentation.
    The agenda of a convention is to alter the constitution to fit a far right agenda. All you have to do is listen to what they want government to be and THAT is what they will make. In your post 113 you echo exactly what I'm saying.

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    Re: Article 5 Convention of the States

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    The agenda of a convention is to alter the constitution to fit a far right agenda. All you have to do is listen to what they want government to be and THAT is what they will make. In your post 113 you echo exactly what I'm saying.
    Okay, thanks!

    But really it should be termed "Their agenda of a convention" rather than "the agenda".

    I have the perfect counter action to what "they" are going to try. You can see how it works here.

    https://www.debatepolitics.com/us-co...h-9th-amd.html (The Ultimate Purpose Of The Right To Free Speech - Re-established through the 9th AMD.)

    Lol, notice at the end, I appear to have exposed at least 2 agents of "theirs" here.

    And yes, "they" do have a massive conspiracy going online to mislead Americans. I've taken 4 years to test and prove my strategy, which is tri-fold power for defense and enforcement of the constitution. I document and explain my efforts here.

    Conservative political forums-manipulation

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