ChrisABrown
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If the government is not legitimate through the social contract, our rights are useless.
Agreed, and it is up to state Citizens to maintain a legitimate government. But, certain features are required to do that, and, when entities collude to compromise those features, we can loose the ability to maintain the legitimacy of government.
So, at times, like NOW, we need to redefine exactly what those features are, and re-establish them. Thus, this thread. But, you bring up another right vital to maintaining constitutional government. The 1st Amendment.
As I do believe in keeping the government in check, if everyone were to use civil disobedience any time that they believed a law was just or unjust, we would live in a world of chaos, and nothing would be accomplished (anarchy).
Yes, that is true. I wish the younger generations could heed that and instead work with the philosophical basis of established law, because their actions are leading tyrants to act as if they need to squash anarchy rising, and that is not helping legitimate uses of rights at all.
We give up CERTAIN rights. For an analogy, if you were at an office, you forfeit the second amendment, and to a certain extent, the first amendment. We have to accept this because in exchange for giving up certain rights, you are being payed.
Yes, but that seems to be limited to the case of illegitimate government and the fact that those purposes of those rights are retained by the people. But I think you refer to a situation where the people do not know how or why the illegitimacy exists.
Although freedom of expression is a very valuable necessity for us Americans, to a certain extent, it is limited. In exchange for protection from domestic, or international problems, we forfeit some valuable rights through the social contract.
Yes, in practice we find it limited. However, in constitutional concept, any limit that prevents us from defending and enforcing the constitution, or maintaining legitimate government, is NOT constitutional.
The Declaration of Independence provides the intent of the Constitution, and it specifically grants a right to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights. Then the constitution makes is law with Article V, but that is right is through the states.
This creates a need for unity within states and between the peoples of states to rally the states to act. Therein is the probably the reason Article V has never happened, aside from an unconstitutional congress that failed to convene delegates in 1911 when enough states applied for a convention. Likely to stop the federal reserve act.
A man named Bill Walker researched the congressional archives to learn that, then filed a lawsuit.