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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by blueliner7 View Post
    How about held accountable immediately? I like that better.
    You mean make senators slaves of the state legislatures.

    Yeah, and I have a feeling that you are implying that Democratic senators representing states with republican controlled legeslatures are a problem?
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    You mean make senators slaves of the state legislatures.
    Yes. I mean that.

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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by blueliner7 View Post
    Yes. I mean that.
    So you oppose Sherrod brown being a democratic senator of Ohio.
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    So you oppose Sherrod brown being a democratic senator of Ohio.
    I oppose any Senator being popularly elected.

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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by blueliner7 View Post
    I oppose any Senator being popularly elected.
    Why? Is being popularly elected somehow worse than being a crony of state politics?
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And is that a bad thing?
    Maybe, it depends on if you want your state's Senators to vote against each other, effectively saying "duh" (nothing at all) is your state's official position instead of either yes or no on a given issue.
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Maybe, it depends on if you want your state's Senators to vote against each other, effectively saying "duh" (nothing at all) is your state's official position instead of either yes or no on a given issue.
    Representing ones state is a non partisan issue, and I am perfectly certain that a States interests can be represented by having a senator from both parties.

    Indiana and Ohio each have one democrat and one republican senator representing them, and I don't think that is a problem.
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Why? Is being popularly elected somehow worse than being a crony of state politics?
    It removes the Senator from the people.

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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by blueliner7 View Post
    It removes the Senator from the people.
    The people that elect them somehow are not represented by popularly electing a senator?
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    Re: Who supports the 17th amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The people that elect them somehow are not represented by popularly electing a senator?
    Once every 6 years? If this is really about the people why not once every 2 years? Like the House?

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