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    Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    There are posts about it all the time.

    Some people claim "hate speech" isn't protected by the First Amendment.

    They're wrong.
    It's not "tolerance" if you already approve of what you purport to "tolerate."

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    Of course it does. The whole point of the First Amendment is to protect speech that people don't like.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    That is pretty much the way I see it.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    Tis a true statement. Hate speech is free speech, violence is not. Any individual should be allowed to run their mouth about whatever so long as they keep it to running one's mouth, not one's fist.
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    Yes it does protect the rights of those saying things we deem hateful. There is no fine print that says "as long as it doesn't offend anybody".
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    Where there is no disagreement there is no liberty. It is human nature to disagree with one another and disagreement is necessary for the development of new ideas. It's a function of growth.

    One need not endorse ideas which they find offensive or personally hurtful but to seek suppression of those ideas is to seek tyranny.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Where there is no disagreement there is no liberty. It is human nature to disagree with one another and disagreement is necessary for the development of new ideas. It's a function of growth.

    One need not endorse ideas which they find offensive or personally hurtful but to seek suppression of those ideas is to seek tyranny.
    Why is that tyranny? Why we should allow people to spread their hatred in public and call for death of other people?
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by NO1 View Post
    Why is that tyranny? Why we should allow people to spread their hatred in public and call for death of other people?
    What makes your hatred if their ideas any better than their hatred of your ideas? Suppression of free speech is totally self-serving and, as such, is a function of totalitarianism.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    What makes your hatred if their ideas any better than their hatred of your ideas? Suppression of free speech is totally self-serving and, as such, is a function of totalitarianism.
    So opposition to Nazis marching in public and calling for killing Jews and Blacks is hatred?
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