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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you agree that BLM, The Muslim Nation, radical immams, antifa, etc. should also be banned?
    Any group or organization which his people calling for death and support terror should not be allowed to protest and spread hatred.
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by NO1 View Post
    II don’t live in the US but I think any democratic regime that protect the liberty of its people, should protect it’s people not just from physical harm but also from mental harm, and in this case the harm in the public feelings is way to much and therefore its overpower the free speech.
    Color-coded for contradiction.
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    Antifa... making sure all discussion ends in violence.
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by NO1 View Post
    Any group or organization which his people calling for death and support terror should not be allowed to protest and spread hatred.
    The American Left disagrees.
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No such protections exist, nor should they.
    Do you agree there some mental injuries which are severe just like (and somtimes more than) physical injury?
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Color-coded for contradiction.
    Where exactly is the contradiction?
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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I don't know who started flinging things but there are definitely videos out there showing the counter protesters spitting and throwing projectiles. As I've said all along, both sides came loaded for bear.
    Okay...but please note that in my previous posts that I didn't identify any specific haters. It could be the Boy Scouts against the Gay Republican Organization of America that wind up at the same rally - both to express some protest against each other's beliefs. I don't condone violence between these groups anymore than the violence that just happened in Charlottesville.

    You really believe that these groups protest rally was about statues being taken down?

    Question:

    Knowing what the legacy and ideology is of the KKK, the Neo-Nazis, and the White Nationalist groups who attended the protest, do you support their organization's ideology - or would you be a member of any of those groups?

    Out of curiosity, would you want to attend any of their rallies?

    Was there any true legitimacy in their protests? Each of those group are adamant that America belongs to whites...period. Isn't that really what their protest is about? How could these groups really expect that there wouldn't be an outbreak of violence? They clearly don't stand for anything that American values and civil rights laws represent.

    I opine that the outcome was their intent all along.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Tis a true statement. Hate speech is free speech, violence is not. Any individual should be allowed to run their mouth about whatever so long as they keep it to running one's mouth, not one's fist.
    You are of course correct. It's a shame that violence is now seen by some as free speech. Shades of the '60's.

    But we survived the '60's. Hopefully we'll survive this.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by NO1 View Post
    Why is that tyranny? Why we should allow people to spread their hatred in public and call for death of other people?
    Are you talking about BLM? Calling for the death of other people crosses the line and is no longer free speech.

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    Re: Hate Speech and the First Amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by ForeignRightist View Post
    To be honest I am surprised I haven't seen any other posts about this.

    Brandenbyrg V. Ohio set the precedent that hate speech is indeed still considered an exercise of freedom of speech assuming it does not result in violence.


    So what do you, the people of DP think?

    Does the First Amendment protect the rights of those saying things others deem hateful, if so, why, if not, why not?
    It all comes down to this:

    Speech that is popular and the majority agrees with, doesn't need protecting. That's why the 1st Amendment exists, not to protect popular speech, but to protect unpopular speech.
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