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    Re: When the 1st Clashes with the 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Wisdom View Post
    It would have been perfectly legal for the authorities to ban all guns from the demonstration, just as authorities can ban guns at other political rallies. Guns can be banned from state government property without violating the 2nd Amendment, especially when there are safety concerns.

    How many people want to bet that the same authorities would never condone a Black Lives Matter group to show up more heavily armed than the police, as the neo-Nazis did here?

    The authorities have an obligation to also protect the free-speech rights of the counter-demonstrators, and that includes making sure that they are not intimidated by neo-Nazis being more heavily armed than the police. The neo-Nazis intentionally show up armed as they did in the hopes that this will intimidate people to the point that they will not show up to counter-protest them, which effectively denies them their freedom of assembly under the First Amendment.

    First Amendment rights have always been given greater protection than Second Amendment rights.
    Depends on the State, the Stat of NH allows Concealed and or open carry anywhere albeit Schools and City Hall / Court.

    As a matter of fact when Obama was a candidate a big to do happened when a man had an AR 15 on his back in the audience as Obama spoke.


    This is not NH, I'll try and find that one too

    Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest -- and it's legal - CNN.com
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    Re: When the 1st Clashes with the 2nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco Montana View Post
    Depends on the State, the Stat of NH allows Concealed and or open carry anywhere albeit Schools and City Hall / Court.

    As a matter of fact when Obama was a candidate a big to do happened when a man had an AR 15 on his back in the audience as Obama spoke.


    This is not NH, I'll try and find that one too

    Man carries assault rifle to Obama protest -- and it's legal - CNN.com
    Is that the jackass who had a pistol on his hip and a sign saying, "It's time to water the tree of liberty!"?
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    Re: When the 1st Clashes with the 2nd

    I find it interesting that so much is known and discussed about the negative aspects of free speech, while the most positive are rarely mentioned. Does this indicate a disability?

    There are no threads here on that subject, except for perhaps the ones I've posted.

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    Re: When the 1st Clashes with the 2nd

    Yes, government has a compelling interest, if violence is planned, yes indeed. Amendment 1 covers only peaceable assembly. Law enforcement has a duty to keep it peaceable, and to use the proper amount of force necessary to do it. As for having guns at a peaceable assembly, I know that permits are often required. Maybe an answer lies in that direction.

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