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Re: Rethinking the 1st & 2nd Ammendments
Lets see if you can express some answers honestly
1) you claimed that HELLER incorporated the second amendment so it applies to state action
2) I said it was McDonald. I proved that. Your response was to claim that the YLJ said Heller and McDonald which proves you don't understand the ruling
3) you claimed that being in the unorganized militia GETS members the right to keep and bear arms. I corrected you and noted that citizens always had that right and the constitution not only refused to give the federal government any power to change that, the second amendment negatively restricted the federal government
you then tried to weasel around your lies by claiming that the people have the right to keep and bear arms and that means they bring that right to the unorganized militia which is essentially saying nothing that matters.
You are arguing that you did to me what I did to you.
The article was quite clear. You are trying to get around what it says, but that argument fails.
:mrgreen: Thank you for accepting that the primacy of the 2d Amendment carried its rights into the organized militia. At least we got the argument straight on that finally.
Lets see if you can express some answers honestly
1) you claimed that HELLER incorporated the second amendment so it applies to state action
2) I said it was McDonald. I proved that. Your response was to claim that the YLJ said Heller and McDonald which proves you don't understand the ruling
3) you claimed that being in the unorganized militia GETS members the right to keep and bear arms. I corrected you and noted that citizens always had that right and the constitution not only refused to give the federal government any power to change that, the second amendment negatively restricted the federal government
you then tried to weasel around your lies by claiming that the people have the right to keep and bear arms and that means they bring that right to the unorganized militia which is essentially saying nothing that matters.