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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    People have the right to freedom of speech regardless of where they are. Any person who denies another the right to free speech is denying their rights and is committing a crime that the government has the responsibility to protect.
    Wrong.

    The Bill of Rights protects an individual from the Government blocking their right to speak.

    It does not guarantee that an individual has the right to say whatever they want, wherever they want.

    You have the right to assemble with others and say whatever you want. That does not mean you have the right to stand up in another lawful assembly and say whatever you want.

    You really do not understand this, do you?
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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Wrong.

    The Bill of Rights protects an individual from the Government blocking their right to speak.

    It does not guarantee that an individual has the right to say whatever they want, wherever they want.

    You have the right to assemble with others and say whatever you want. That does not mean you have the right to stand up in another lawful assembly and say whatever you want.

    You really do not understand this, do you?
    The first is the only amendment that starts with the qualifier of who can make no law. The rest are absolute.

    You're correct. You do not have to speak on my property or on my time.

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by dropzone View Post
    Also, bringing up what rights people have to hear or not hear on their own private property is a load of crap. A little personal privacy should be allowed. Maybe one acre around any individual if they have the room. Apart from that, it would be infringing on the rights of others.
    Therefore, I have the right to camp right outside of your house and shout for 12 hours a day on the glories of Zoro-Astroism. And any attempt you make to have me move is a violation of my right to free speech.

    Or if you do not like that, I will do so in front of your neighbor's house, who is also a believer in Zoro-Astroism.

    Stop oppressing me! You are letting everybody see the oppression inherent in the system!
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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    I've been to more countries than you can spell correctly.
    And yet you think freedom of speech is a crown of america. Did you do see the world from the safety of a guided bus tour?

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by dropzone View Post
    Take what it says about free speech. Those who agree with it can take that idea and stick it so far up up their ass that they would need a dentist to check the other end of it for head lice. Free speech isn't a god damned political issue. It's a mutha fukin HUMAN RIGHTS issue! A human right that as everybody knows, business' (such as political forums) can ignore at their leisure)

    Also, the constitution was written by and for American citizens. But somehow, it has come to protect people in this country who aren't citizens. I think it's time we used the constitution as toilet paper and do an Ameri-exit.
    After digging through your foul writing, I have to say you don't understand the first amendment at all. It restricts government, not the public. The public can restrict speech at its pleasure. The government cannot.

    Another important point is that the constitution defines government restrictions for everyone within the U.S. - even foreigners, legal or otherwise. Outsied the U.S. they lose their constitutional protections.

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Your're correct concerning the SCOTUS statement concerning free speech. I didn't bother to quote the full statement since I assumed most people are aware of the full statement.

    You're not correct with the 99% thingy. That's the newly coined Comey definition concocted to let Hillary off the hook. But breaking the law is breaking the law. A LEO or a judge may dismiss the charge and sometimes do. That doesn't change the law.
    If you knew Jack didly squat about the legal system (which you don't) you would know it was constructed to insure justice and not to insure obedience to laws. It is not a LEO or a Judge that decides guilt or innocence in the legal system, it is a jury of Citizens.
    The jury has the right and the responsibility to examine both the evidence of wrongdoing and the issue of weather a crime was actually committed. If the jury determines that the law was broken, but no crime was committed they are well within their power as jurors to find the defendant not guilty. Just because a group of asshats in Washington or the State Capitol decide to pass a law does not in any way shape or form obligate the Citizens to agree that the law is just or should be enforced. The real separation of powers is that the legislators can pass laws, the judicial can interpret the laws that legislators pass, but ultimately it is the Citzens in the form of juror's who decide if in their opinion the law is just and whether or not to enforce it. The problem is the vast majority of Citizens are as ignorant as you are about the law and simply do as they are told because they are too stupid and lazy to become educated about the law, the Constitution, and their duty as Citizens.

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Wrong.

    The Bill of Rights protects an individual from the Government blocking their right to speak.

    It does not guarantee that an individual has the right to say whatever they want, wherever they want.

    You have the right to assemble with others and say whatever you want. That does not mean you have the right to stand up in another lawful assembly and say whatever you want.

    You really do not understand this, do you?
    Define " another lawful assembly"

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdog View Post
    Define " another lawful assembly"
    Come on now, really? Any meeting of 3 or more people in a public location for any purposes that do not break nor conspire to break any laws.

    In other words, meeting up with 20 people in the park to play baseball is legal. Meeting up with 20 people in a park with baseball bats to go and rough up a political group meeting across the street who you do not like is unlawful.

    The problem in this last year is that individuals on the far left have turned increasingly towards acts of violence. That is not protected free speech, nor is attempting to intimidate opponents.

    But hey, you just keep on being you.
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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Wrong.

    The Bill of Rights protects an individual from the Government blocking their right to speak.

    It does not guarantee that an individual has the right to say whatever they want, wherever they want.

    You have the right to assemble with others and say whatever you want. That does not mean you have the right to stand up in another lawful assembly and say whatever you want.

    You really do not understand this, do you?
    That's isn't accurate. If I'm in a public place, talking about politics, you can't punch me in the mouth to shut me up. That's a civil rights violation, on top of assault.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The Constitution Would Make Good Toilet Paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Come on now, really? Any meeting of 3 or more people in a public location for any purposes that do not break nor conspire to break any laws.

    In other words, meeting up with 20 people in the park to play baseball is legal. Meeting up with 20 people in a park with baseball bats to go and rough up a political group meeting across the street who you do not like is unlawful.

    The problem in this last year is that individuals on the far left have turned increasingly towards acts of violence. That is not protected free speech, nor is attempting to intimidate opponents.

    But hey, you just keep on being you.
    Violence against others is always illegal. What has that got to do with free speech? You go on being you too, it is a little difficult to be anything else.....

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