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Texas Governor Greg Abbot is calling for a Constitutional Convention of the States to bring Washington politicians back in line with the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution.

If you are unfamiliar with what a Constitutional Convention is, it’s pretty simple. Article V of the Constitution makes it clear that Congress has the power to amend the Constitution by adding Amendments. Most people understand that it is Congress, and not the president, no matter how mighty his pen or phone may be, that writes the laws.

In addition, however, Article V also gives the same power to amend the Constitution to the states. The states can convene, propose an amendment, and as long as there is a 3/4 agreement from the states, that amendment shall be ratified.

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WCH said:
Texas Governor Greg Abbot is calling for a Constitutional Convention of the States to bring Washington politicians back in line with the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution.

If you are unfamiliar with what a Constitutional Convention is, it’s pretty simple. Article V of the Constitution makes it clear that Congress has the power to amend the Constitution by adding Amendments. Most people understand that it is Congress, and not the president, no matter how mighty his pen or phone may be, that writes the laws.

In addition, however, Article V also gives the same power to amend the Constitution to the states. The states can convene, propose an amendment, and as long as there is a 3/4 agreement from the states, that amendment shall be ratified.

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This is the same guy who wanted to "monitor" Jade Helm 15, right?

Why should anybody care what some crackpot thinks?

Texas keeps forgetting the lessons the entire south should have learned during the Civil War.
 
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WCH said:
Texas Governor Greg Abbot is calling for a Constitutional Convention of the States to bring Washington politicians back in line with the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution.

If you are unfamiliar with what a Constitutional Convention is, it’s pretty simple. Article V of the Constitution makes it clear that Congress has the power to amend the Constitution by adding Amendments. Most people understand that it is Congress, and not the president, no matter how mighty his pen or phone may be, that writes the laws.

In addition, however, Article V also gives the same power to amend the Constitution to the states. The states can convene, propose an amendment, and as long as there is a 3/4 agreement from the states, that amendment shall be ratified.

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Here's list...

  1. [h=3]Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one State.[/h]
  2. [h=3]Require Congress to balance its budget.[/h]
  3. [h=3]Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from creating federal law.[/h]
  4. [h=3]Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from preempting state law.[/h]
  5. [h=3]Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a U.S. Supreme Court decision.[/h]
  6. [h=3]Require a seven-justice super-majority vote for U.S. Supreme Court decisions that invalidate a democratically enacted law.[/h]
  7. [h=3]Restore the balance of power between the federal and state governments by limiting the former to the powers expressly delegated to it in the Constitution.[/h]
  8. [h=3]Give state officials the power to sue in federal court when federal officials overstep their bounds.[/h]
  9. [h=3]Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a federal law or regulation.[/h]
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Many of these make sense. About time.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
This is the same guy who wanted to "monitor" Jade Helm 15, right?

Why should anybody care what some crackpot thinks?

Texas keeps forgetting the lessons the entire south should have learned during the Civil War.
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It's Ironic that Sam Houston, one of the founding fathers of Texas, was against secession.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
This is the same guy who wanted to "monitor" Jade Helm 15, right?

Why should anybody care what some crackpot thinks?

Texas keeps forgetting the lessons the entire south should have learned during the Civil War.
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You do know we're not talking about secession here, Yank?
 
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What a drama queen nutbag! Maybe he should go back to worrying about Jade Helm...
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
It's Ironic that Sam Houston, one of the founding fathers of Texas, was against secession.
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Quite ironic.

He knew full well what secession was going to bring, even if most of his citizens were too delusional to figure it out.
 
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WCH said:
You do know we're not talking about secession here, Yank?
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Somebody dumb enough to think that Jade Helm 15 was a plot to "invade Texas" and had the Texas State Guard watching the exercise "just in case".....

I wouldn't put anything past him.
 
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Redress said:
What a drama queen nutbag! Maybe he should go back to worrying about Jade Helm...
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Oh, just you wait. Very soon now, Obummer and the military's gonna be invadin' our great state of Texas! He's gonna put all us white people in FEMA prison camps!
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Doesn't federal law trump state law?
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The Supremacy Clause states Federal trumps state when there is a conflict. Perhaps it's time for an Amendment....?
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Somebody dumb enough to think that Jade Helm 15 was a plot to "invade Texas" and had the Texas State Guard watching the exercise "just in case".....

I wouldn't put anything past him.
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I don't think the Texas governor has read article VI clause 2 of the United States constitution.
 
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This 'news' is a tad outdated: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott calls for Convention of States to take back states' rights This story was published on 8 Jan 2016, yet no one in the GOP has said a word about Abbot's dream since then - i wonder why.

Can anyone see the problem with proposal #1 Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one State.?
 
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MaggieD said:
The Supremacy Clause states Federal trumps state when there is a conflict. Perhaps it's time for an Amendment....?
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I notice the list of changes they want to add and I think many of them are in conflict with current federal law.
 
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WCH said:
Texas Governor Greg Abbot is calling for a Constitutional Convention of the States to bring Washington politicians back in line with the rule of law, and the spirit of the Constitution.

If you are unfamiliar with what a Constitutional Convention is, it’s pretty simple. Article V of the Constitution makes it clear that Congress has the power to amend the Constitution by adding Amendments. Most people understand that it is Congress, and not the president, no matter how mighty his pen or phone may be, that writes the laws.

In addition, however, Article V also gives the same power to amend the Constitution to the states. The states can convene, propose an amendment, and as long as there is a 3/4 agreement from the states, that amendment shall be ratified.

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Its Happening - Texas Governor Calling For Convention Of The States To Rein In Washington - US Chronicle

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Well . . . nothing's actually happening yet.

Here are his proposed amendments:

Governor Abbott offered the following constitutional amendments:

1. Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one State.
2. Require Congress to balance its budget.
3. Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from creating federal law.
4. Prohibit administrative agencies—and the unelected bureaucrats that staff them—from preempting state law.
5. Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a U.S. Supreme Court decision.
6. Require a seven-justice super-majority vote for U.S. Supreme Court decisions that invalidate a democratically enacted law.
7. Restore the balance of power between the federal and state governments by limiting the former to the powers expressly delegated to it in the Constitution.
8. Give state officials the power to sue in federal court when federal officials overstep their bounds.
9. Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a federal law or regulation.
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1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4) Yes.
5) No.
6) No.
7) The 10th Amendment already does this, but I support other measures, such as requiring Congress to attach to any bill its theory of how its enumerated powers authorize whatever the bill is.
8) Yes.
9) No.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
Doesn't federal law trump state law?
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The problem is that rule wasn't meant to be applied to everything.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
I don't think the Texas governor has read article VI clause 2 of the United States constitution.
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I don't think he's read any part of the constitution, except maybe the tenth amendment
 
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Henrin said:
The problem is that rule wasn't meant to be applied to everything.
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According to whom? The founding fathers? The same founding fathers that wrote article VI Clause 2 into the constitution?
 
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Somerville said:
This 'news' is a tad outdated: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott calls for Convention of States to take back states' rights This story was published on 8 Jan 2016, yet no one in the GOP has said a word about Abbot's dream since then - i wonder why.

Can anyone see the problem with proposal #1 Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one State.?
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No. Care to tell me what it is?
 
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TheGoverness said:
Oh, just you wait. Very soon now, Obummer and the military's gonna be invadin' our great state of Texas! He's gonna put all us white people in FEMA prison camps!
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Naah, he's gonna give em all ExLax and keep em in a matchbox.
 
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while its sounds like a good idea, its not, why?

because in order to have a convention delegates must elected for that convention, which means that those selected are going to be lobbied by every parasitic group which exist, bribery shall abound.

political partisanship will seek to turn the constitution one way

the placed for the convention will be descended on like a mad house with everyone outside of it protesting for their political point of view.


want to turn things around in America?

repeal the 17th amendment......which will put the senate back in hands of the state legislatures and reinstall the check on federal power.

repeal the 16th amendment .....which will take away power of the government over the people........."the power to tax is the power to destroy"

get rid of the federal reserve.......which will put the power of money back into the hands of government and those accountable to the people, instead of a private bank .....called the federal reserve
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
According to whom? The founding fathers? The same founding fathers that wrote article VI Clause 2 into the constitution?
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Why is everything in the constitution an excuse for supreme power to liberals? If I say you have the power to regulate between states you people are like so New York is doing something that only takes place in New York, so the powers granted to me allow me to control that.
 
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Henrin said:
Why is everything in the constitution an excuse for supreme power to liberals? If I say you have the power to regulate between states you people are like so New York is doing something that only takes place in New York, so the powers granted to me allow me to control that.
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The commerce clause exists for a reason you know.
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
The commerce clause exists for a reason you know.
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You mean because there was trade disputes between states? I wonder what activities taking place only in New York have to do with a trade dispute between states. Oh right, nothing.
 
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