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Lutherf said:

Fascinating. They threaten to withhold federal funds over this but seek to protect federal funding of elective medical procedures.

It's grandstanding.

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Beaudreaux said:

First of all, the DOJ is not going to arrest the governor of NC, Hillary, maybe, but not North Carolina's governor, because it's a civil law fight, not a criminal law fight. The OP was hyperbolic, and I responded in kind.

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azgreg said:

So, have they arrested the entire NC legislature yet?

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Lutherf said:

The entire state of North Carolina is, as we speak, being rounded up and sent to sensitivity training camps.

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OrphanSlug said:

The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals already went through this, it is discriminatory.

And no, I am not worried about my wife and/or daughter sharing a bathroom with a transgender (who may have been born a man.) Those are not the people out to harm people.

I worry about people like Jared Fogle, Jerry Sandusky, Roman Polanski, Jeffrey Epstein, a vast number of priests... all of whom like to play with little boys and girls. Those generally older white "straight" guys are the problem.

And speaking of law, this NC law is damn near worthless. There is no active enforcement of checking who can go into what bathroom, it is all after the fact and complaint based. We are going to see numerous problems from NC's little law here that will safeguard *no one* regardless.

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azgreg said:

Will that be in all the Texas Walmart's that turned out not to be internment camps for Jade Helm?

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Lutherf said:

This is completely different. It's called Operation Purple Helm and is focused on containing alien one eyed wonder worms.

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Fenton said:

Well, being a man I dont think you have the right to speak for the concerns of Women and Girls.

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Fenton said:

Also, forcing Women and Girls to share restrooms with strange grown men is discriminatory

Not taking their concerns and or fears into account is discriminatory

So, do you have a problem with grown men in mens clothes sharing a restroom with young girls and women ?

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justabubba said:

Lynch was great in her explanation why this is a civil rights violation and the implications for NC should it refuse to acknowledge that

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Lutherf said:

Both the law and the AG response are "solutions" to problems that don't exist. It's reactionary legislation followed by reactionary prosecution.

In 50 years I can count on one hand the times where I have even heard a first hand account of someone having a problem finding a restroom to use due to their "gender identity".

I know. I know. "If even one person is discriminated against we need to rally around them!". Unfortunately that's how this reactionary crap gets started and it NEVER fixes anything.

We're dealing with human beings. Some are bigoted, some are foul mouthed, some are creepy, some believe they have something to prove to the world. They're out there whether we have penis laws or not and some of them are going to start some **** just because they feel a need to. The more credibility we give such knuckleheads by trying to "save" them or "punish" them" the more they come out of the woodwork.

Last year or the year before there was some law passed out here which would allow restaurants to refuse service to homosexuals. The whole ****ing country went nuts because of it but do you know how many problems it fixed? None. Not a damned one. Do you know why it didn't fix anything? Because there was no problem to begin with.

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justabubba said:

i remember the same thing being said by the opposition
after the civil rights act was passed in 1964
'there is no problem' they insisted

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Lutherf said:

The 1964 CRA was also overreach and to equate HB2 with issues that Blacks experienced up into the 60's is intellectually dishonest.

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Lutherf said:

This is completely different. It's called Operation Purple Helm and is focused on containing alien one eyed wonder worms.

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justabubba said:

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same difference

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Lutherf said:

It's not the same. Not by a long shot.

Plessy v Ferguson set up "separate but equal" facilities for blacks. We're not talking about anything like that. We're talking about people who are anatomically male using facilities for males and people who are anatomically female using facilities for females.

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MrT said:

Do you really fail to see the disconnect from making this statement and then following that statement up, while still being a man yourself, with the following?



The disconnect is astounding.

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justabubba said:

those who identify as female get to use the womens room
just like those who identify as male go to the mens room
no need for a sign telling them they cannot use the rest room of their choice
similar to this one

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justabubba said:

those who identify as female get to use the womens room
just like those who identify as male go to the mens room
no need for a sign telling them they cannot use the rest room of their choice
similar to this one
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justabubba said:

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same difference

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Lutherf said:

Are we prosecuting them for doing that now? No, we're not. Is it some massive problem that's all out of control? No, it isn't. Since that's the case then we need to just let establishments set their own rules and start dealing with this crap like adults.

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justabubba said:

the city of charlotte passed legislation codifying one's right to enter the gender bathroom the citizen identified with ... like many other governments had done
and the state stepped in to step over that legislation
and now the DoJ will clarify for everyone, not to intrude on anyone's rights only because they have a gender identification different than most

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Lutherf said:

Well, I'd suggest that the right to privacy works both ways and if someone doesn't want to be in a dressing room or restroom with someone else who is the opposite anatomical sex their rights need to be considered too.

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justabubba said:

and they have that right not to so associate
just avoid the bathroom

again, your reply is like what i heard from the racists in 1964
"we have rights too, not to have to use the same bathrooms as those colored people"

that refrain is as convincing and 'legitimate' now as it was then

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