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WH and DOJ Officials Discussed Mueller Report Before Release

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If you had doubts about Barr's integrity:


WASHINGTON — Robert S. Mueller III’s findings will be public on Thursday, but some of them will not be news to President Trump.

Justice Department officials have had numerous conversations with White House lawyers about the conclusions made by Mr. Mueller, the special counsel, in recent days, according to people with knowledge of the discussions. The talks have aided the president’s legal team as it prepares a rebuttal to the report and strategizes for the coming public war over its findings.
A sense of paranoia is taking hold among some of Mr. Trump’s aides, some of whom fear his backlash more than the findings themselves, the people said. The report might make clear which of Mr. Trump’s current and former advisers spoke to the special counsel, how much they said and how much damage they did to the president — providing a kind of road map for retaliation.
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It was clear when he refused to answer the question on whether the white house had seen the Mueller report. Are there any honorable Republicans today?
 
I'm confused. What is the issue?

Of course the President would have the right to see and discuss the results before it would be published.

The Special Counsel was appointed by Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein after then-Attorney General Sessions recused himself. This was approved by the President.

The DOJ is a part of the government Administration and subject to the President's authority as Chief Executive.

What law or rule is being broken when the Attorney-General reports the results to the President, and then discusses what must be redacted by law, and what will be published? :unsure13:
 
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Verax said:
It was clear when he refused to answer the question on whether the white house had seen the Mueller report. Are there any honorable Republicans today?
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If so I hope they'll step up.
 
Yes, I posted this on another thread.

Here's my take. William Barr, in his 4 page summary, had used only partial sentences out of the actual sentences by Mueller in the original report. In other words, he essentially cherry-picked and sanitized the results of the report which made them favorable for Trump of course.

Now the report will be released and even with redactions, there's going to be a lot of embarrassing things in there for Trump but not necessarily unlawful.

The strategy is going to be to attack the Mueller investigation itself, from the ground up, and de-legitimize it as much as possible, nearly to the point that people will be wanting Mueller locked up. LOL! (almost serious)

Trump's lawyers, and Barr himself are going to accuse the FBI of unlawful spying and that's a bunch of crap. Those FISA warrants on Page and Papadoupolis were valid warrants. Then they'll move on to Strzok and Page and John Brennan. By the time they're finished, just to save Trump's ass, they're willing to destroy those institutions so vital to our country's security that there really won't be any trust in any government federal agency any longer.

This is very sad what's happened to this country. I think the game is over and democracy lost.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I'm confused. What is the issue?

Of course the President would have the right to see and discuss the results before it would be published.

The Special Counsel was appointed by Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein after then-Attorney General Sessions recused himself. This was approved by the President.

The DOJ is a part of the government Administration and subject to the President's authority as Chief Executive.

What law or rule is being broken when the Attorney-General reports the results to the President, and then discusses what must be redacted, and what will be published? :unsure13:
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Ethics and integrity. Barr's actions have underlined the rot of American democracy. His actions will do nothing to restore faith in our system of government at a time when most Americans and the world wonder how much deeper in the mud the nation can wallow in the muck.
 
HumblePi said:
Yes, I posted this on another thread.

Here's my take. William Barr, in his 4 page summary, had used only partial sentences out of the actual sentences by Mueller in the original report. In other words, he essentially cherry-picked and sanitized the results of the report which made them favorable for Trump of course.

Now the report will be released and even with redactions, there's going to be a lot of embarrassing things in there for Trump but not necessarily unlawful.

The strategy is going to be to attack the Mueller investigation itself, from the ground up, and de-legitimize it as much as possible, nearly to the point that people will be wanting Mueller locked up. LOL! (almost serious)

Trump's lawyers, and Barr himself are going to accuse the FBI of unlawful spying and that's a bunch of crap. Those FISA warrants on Page and Papadoupolis were valid warrants. Then they'll move on to Strzok and Page and John Brennan. By the time they're finished, just to save Trump's ass, they're willing to destroy those institutions so vital to our country's security that there really won't be any trust in any government federal agency any longer.

This is very sad what's happened to this country. I think the game is over and democracy lost.
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I am fearful that it has.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Ethics and integrity. Barr's actions have underlined the rot of American democracy. His actions will do nothing to restore faith in our system of government at a time when most Americans and the world wonder how much deeper in the mud the nation can wallow in the muck.
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Soooo...no law or rule, just naked personal opinion? Okay. :coffeepap:
 
Of course, when it was first discussed that Barr had briefed the White House, republicans denied it. And why? No reason; just to kill time.
 
I often think back on this comment that Matt Schlapp made back in February:

“Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General. Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.”

Matt Schlapp: ’Mueller will be gone soon’ - POLITICO
 
The DOJ is informing Jerry Nadler that the democrat Congress will not be receiving the report until late tomorrow afternoon.

This is not a coincidence of any sort, this is intentional because Friday is Good Friday and Congress is out of session all next week for Easter recess.

One more little thing. I live about 2 miles from where Sikorsky helicopters are made. I see them once in a while flying overhead test flight. But 30 minutes ago I saw the BIG helicopter, the Boeing CH-47 Chinook. I have NEVER seen this ship fly over. This massive helicopter is a troop carrier.

Would Trump dare to cause trouble in Cuba or Venezuela this weekend just to detract from this whole Mueller report?
I wouldn't put that past him.

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From the Times article as quoted below.... What more do some want? The AG is trying to be as open and transparent as the law permits. He also is obligated to mention things in the report so the WH can give a proper response. So what's the problem now?

Let's face it, no matter what happens tomorrow after the report is released, the Trump resistors will never be happy.
Cry me a blue river. ;)

"Justice Department rules do not require Mr. Barr to make the special counsel’s report public, and the attorney general’s defenders say he will fulfill pledges of transparency he made during his confirmation hearings to make as much of the document public as possible."
 
They colluded to agree a four-page summary that said virtually nothing? I'm shocked, I tell you!
 
Captain Adverse said:
Soooo...no law or rule, just naked personal opinion? Okay. :coffeepap:
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It is most certainly NOT a personal opinion that Barr has been sharing this report with Trump and his team of lawyers for days. That's a FACT. It most certainly is NOT a personal opinion that this report was supposed to be release on Monday, then delayed until Thursday and now Congress won't get it until late Thursday. This is intentional. And nobody, not ONE lawyer from Mueller's team will be part of that press conference.

YOU choose not to see facts, and they are happening today in real time. Pay attention.
 
looks like we'll see some version of the report tomorrow. i'll comment then.
 
Captain Adverse said:
I'm confused. What is the issue?

Of course the President would have the right to see and discuss the results before it would be published.
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I have to agree. There is no issue with them discussing it. It's the AG's duty to report to the president.

If they then subsequently conspire to cover up any crimes in order to protect the president, it becomes a problem. But info sharing in this case is the AG's responsibility to his boss.

Besides, Trump should know what they've got on him.
 
trixare4kids said:
From the Times article as quoted below.... What more do some want? The AG is trying to be as open and transparent as the law permits. He also is obligated to mention things in the report so the WH can give a proper response. So what's the problem now?

Let's face it, no matter what happens tomorrow after the report is released, the Trump resistors will never be happy.
Cry me a blue river. ;)

"Justice Department rules do not require Mr. Barr to make the special counsel’s report public, and the attorney general’s defenders say he will fulfill pledges of transparency he made during his confirmation hearings to make as much of the document public as possible."
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The problem is that he's been 'open and transparent' to Trump and his attorneys for days. But with Congress, our government body that makes laws, he's hiding and covering up. It's scandalous how blatantly and willfully he's serving as Trump's personal lawyer, not the lawyer for the people of this country.

Peter Carr, who is Robert Mueller's spokesperson, just put out a statement ahead of tomorrow's press conference that Barr and Rosenstein are giving, that there will be no member of Mueller's team in attendance. Peter Carr will be there only because he handles the press on DOJ criminal matters.

Do you know what that means? It's like having a wedding and only the groom shows up, not the bride. Basically the Mueller team is not in agreement with what William Barr is trying to pull off.
 
HumblePi said:
The problem is that he's been 'open and transparent' to Trump and his attorneys for days. But with Congress, our government body that makes laws, he's hiding and covering up. It's scandalous how blatantly and willfully he's serving as Trump's personal lawyer, not the lawyer for the people of this country.

Peter Carr, who is Robert Mueller's spokesperson, just put out a statement ahead of tomorrow's press conference that Barr and Rosenstein are giving, that there will be no member of Mueller's team in attendance. Peter Carr will be there only because he handles the press on DOJ criminal matters.

Do you know what that means? It's like having a wedding and only the groom shows up, not the bride. Basically the Mueller team is not in agreement with what William Barr is trying to pull off.
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That’s funny. The same bride and groom reference was used on MSNBC just a little while ago. Ari Melber fan?
 
HumblePi said:
The DOJ is informing Jerry Nadler that the democrat Congress will not be receiving the report until late tomorrow afternoon.

This is not a coincidence of any sort, this is intentional because Friday is Good Friday and Congress is out of session all next week for Easter recess.

One more little thing. I live about 2 miles from where Sikorsky helicopters are made. I see them once in a while flying overhead test flight. But 30 minutes ago I saw the BIG helicopter, the Boeing CH-47 Chinook. I have NEVER seen this ship fly over. This massive helicopter is a troop carrier.

Would Trump dare to cause trouble in Cuba or Venezuela this weekend just to detract from this whole Mueller report?
I wouldn't put that past him.

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Probably take more than just the weekend to fly to Cuba or Venezuela. :p
 
Moon said:
That’s funny. The same bride and groom reference was used on MSNBC just a little while ago. Ari Melber fan?
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Close, he said 'half the wedding doesn't show'. lol

it was a great analogy. I'm actually not an Ari fan, but I do like some of his commentators.
 
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