The transgender fad

[Good4Nothin]

I think it's a fad. Just my opinion but here's my explanation.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

 

[Rich2018]

Life is so simple when you're a Christian.

 

[Good4Nothin]

Life is so simple when you're a Christian.

So the only possible reason someone could question this is because they are a Christian? It has nothing to do with Christianity, and I am not a Christian.

When you don't want to think and question, simply accuse people of being (horrors!) a Christian.

 

[Rich2018]

So the only possible reason someone could question this is because they are a Christian? It has nothing to do with Christianity, and I am not a Christian.

When you don't want to think and question, simply accuse people of being (horrors!) a Christian.

I suppose you can replace "Christian" with "Theist" to make you happy.

Apart from religious grounds, what other reason would you have ?

 

[Good4Nothin]

I suppose you can replace "Christian" with "Theist" to make you happy.

Apart from religious grounds, what other reason would you have ?

Did you read my post???

 

[Daisy]

There was a time when a parent's goal was to teach their child to be happy in his or her own skin...now the goal is, if you don't like the skin you're in, just change it...

 

[Rich2018]

Did you read my post???

Yes, did you read the reply ?

Apart from religious grounds, what other reason (to object that is) would you have ?

 

[lwf]

I think it's a fad. Just my opinion but here's my explanation.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

Sex cannot be changed, (yet) but gender can be. Gender is a cultural phenomenon, not a physical one. It requires no surgery or hormones to change one's gender, but surgery and hormones can help the transgender person feel more like the true gender with which they identify. As such, they should be free to use whatever means they so choose to help them in their transition, and anyone who deliberately refuses to recognize their chosen gender due to ideological reasons is a rude asshole.

 

[Port & Starboard]

Life is so simple when you're a Christian.

Non Christians ask the same thing.

A major bout of ignorance on your part.

 

[Daisy]

Non Christians ask the same thing.

A major bout of ignorance on your part.

Nothing new...

 

[Drawdown]

I think it's a fad. Just my opinion but here's my explanation.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

I don't really care except in two circumstances---when it comes to sensitive areas like bathrooms and when it comes to female sports.

 

[TheGoverness]

I think it's a fad. Just my opinion but here's my explanation.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

Oh goodness, here we go.

Being transgender, and attempting to transition to the gender that a respective person wants to present themselves as, is not a "fad". These people actually are affected by gender dysphoria, and transitioning is the way that may choose to go about it. Now, while they will never be biologically male or female (which ever gender that they want to transition to), I will absolutely respect their pronouns that they choose to address themselves by, because I'm not an asshole.

Transgenderism is not more a fad than me being homosexual; it's real. We're all real, and none of it is a fad. Dismissing it as a "fad" or whatever, will not make it go away, and continues to throw real issues under the rug.

 

[Craig234]

I think it's a fad.

That's because you don't understand it. You're like a guy trying to explain menstruation who has never talked to a woman.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Gender isn't environment. We've learned that from a lot of science.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

It's understandable to ask that, but shows not knowing anything about the issue. No, we know it's not that. For you to be saying an opinion based on nothing, instead of just asking, is wrong.

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

First, you should learn basic things about the issue - the idea of "gender identity" and the experience of people who are transgender. You can learn a lot from online things. Second, then you can begin to understand the reasons for surgery and the limitations what it can do, but why it might still be an improvement from their point of view.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

The only propaganda here is you, spouting nonsense because you don't know anything but have opinions to push anyway. You're calling science propaganda. You would be justified to be 'skeptical' and ask questions, but that's all you should be doing, not attacking based on nothing. Try a crazy idea - getting more informed. Transgender isn't about 'hey fighter pilot looks fun'.

 

[Angel]

Did you read my post???

Are you kidding? Of course he didn't read it; he merely reacted to it.

 

[Angel]

...I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

Yes, transgenderism has become trendy. And to the extent that it is trendy children are in jeopardy, yes.

 

[Dragonfly]

I think it's a fad.

It appears you need to consult a dictionary regarding the second word in your post.

 

[calamity]

Yes, transgenderism has become trendy. And to the extent that it is trendy children are in jeopardy, yes.

Simplistic answers to complex questions are invariably incorrect.

 

[HonestJoe]

I think it's a fad.

Your wrong. There is clear scientific evidence that there are physiological differences within transgender individuals. There are also some very clear examples of people throughout history who displayed gender dysphoria, even though it was seen and treated differently in different times, places and cultures. There are inevitable “faddy” elements too as social and legal attitudes shift and change and as this reality moves further in to the mainstream view. That is no justification to dismiss everything and everyone involve as part of a “fad” though.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

Isn’t a sense of being born the wrong sex complicated enough? I very much doubt anybody with that feeling would call it in any way simple. If anything, the problem is that you’re trying to come up with a simple answer to a set of very complicated conditions and circumstances.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

Well as you pointed out, these days there is little preventing a girl from dressing and acting “like a boy” (to the point that phrase is somewhat meaningless). Questions of actual gender identity are entirely different and much more complex. This could be just one small way in which they could present.

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

That is something of a different question. Accurately and completely identifying the problem is distinct (and a necessary precursor) to developing the best solution. It should also be noted that everyone is individual and so the best solution for one person could be entirely different to the best solution for another, even if they appear to be in a very similar situation.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

Believing in reincarnation has nothing to do with being “smart”. Providing the slightest bit of evidence that such a concept is even possible would do though. Unless and until that happens, there is absolutely no reason to even consider it.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

I don’t think any decent doctor in the field would call it simply fixing the problem. It is more a case of finding the best way to manage the problem for the individual patient and I can totally see (indeed, have seen) how surgery of some kind can play a part in that process.

Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler

Nobody says that. You’re either grossly ignorant of reality or you’re spinning up dishonest rhetoric to support your opinion. Neither possibility looks good on you.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

You’re not actually mentioned any real propaganda though, certainly no more than you’ve presented yourself.

 

[Rich2018]

Did you read my post???

Yes, you don't like transgender and you're skeptical of the current treatment for it.

 

[Angel]

Simplistic answers to complex questions are invariably incorrect.

Complexification of simple straightforward matters is the sign of a con game.

 

[AGENT J]

I think it's a fad. Just my opinion but here's my explanation.

If someone is born a normal healthy female, with female DNA and genitals, then she is female.

If, as a child, she feels like she really is a boy, then it is NOT simply a matter of being born the wrong sex. It has to be more complicated than that.

What does it mean to be a boy or a girl? Boys and girls are treated differently and do different things, and act and dress differently. But that has become much less since the 1950s, when we had to wear dresses to school.

Is the transgender girl really a boy in a girl's body? Or does she just want to be a boy so she can dress and act, and be treated like, a boy?

I am VERY skeptical about the current approach. And VERY skeptical about the surgery and hormones.

Many of you are probably too "smart" to believe in reincarnation, but I think it might happen. And maybe some people are reborn into a sex they aren't used to.

I know someone whose teenage daughter is being transed into a boy. Doctors have probably assured the parents this can be done. But it can't be done. Breasts can be cut off, but hips can't be made narrow and shoulders can't be made wide. Hormones can make facial hair grow, but they won't grow a functioning penis.

I think these parents have been fooled by the currently popular idea that people can be born into the wrong sex, and that this can be fixed with medical wizardry.

If you, or your child, really wants to be the other sex, be skeptical of the current propaganda. Maybe Betsy dreams of being a professional male wrestler -- but guess what, no amount of surgery will turn her into one. But if she dreams of a traditional male career that she can attain while staying female, these days that is possible. She can be a fighter pilot, or whatever.

I am just asking people to think more carefully about this. It's easy to just follow the ideological propaganda, but it might be all wrong.

so something that has been around before you existed and something that will be around after your gone is a fad? LMAO riiiiiiight

theres nothing wrong with skepticism and caution and due diligence, that i agree with. That should be done with EVERYTHING medical and science-based . . . . but all you did is prove how factually uneducated you are on this specific topic

so besides your message of "be carful" NOBODY honest educated and objective will take it seriously because it has no rational logical value.

 

[AGENT J]

Life is so simple when you're a Christian.

please dont group together all Christians . . he does not speak for them all. He is just an individual who is monumentally uneducated about this topic.

 

[AGENT J]

There was a time when a parent's goal was to teach their child to be happy in his or her own skin...now the goal is, if you don't like the skin you're in, just change it...

also, NOTHING to do with this topic lol

 

[AGENT J]

I don't really care except in two circumstances---when it comes to sensitive areas like bathrooms and when it comes to female sports.

whats sensitive about the bathroom issue?

as for sports its a pretty simple solution ones its worked out

sports does need to be looked at but im fine with what MEDICAL SCIENCE decides. My feelings and your feelings dont matter on the issue.
Sports that are tied to academics (and Olympics) need to be regulated by medical science for advantages and disadvantages like they already are . . but more(research, some is already done) needs to be performed to assure this.

other sports leagues like MMA are independent bodies and are free to govern themselves how they wish . . i might not agree but its their choice

 

[Rich2018]

Non Christians ask the same thing.

A major bout of ignorance on your part.

Then replace "christian" with Theist and see if my answer is more catholic to you.


If no, by all means identify the non-Christians that you refer to ?