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Gang members detected in the caravan

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This is a link from msn.com in Spanish that details first hand accounts of gang members traveling with the caravan.

I couldn't find any stories in English to post here. All the stories I found about this in English were about Trump saying this. The story in Spanish has first hand accounts and doesn't mention Trump at all.

I wonder why there is such a difference in the two reporting styles.

Hopefully somebody with more time than I have will translate the important parts.

https://www.msn.com/es-mx/noticias/...suntos-pandilleros/ar-BBOV5Wq?ocid=spartanntp
 
This is a link from msn.com in Spanish that details first hand accounts of gang members traveling with the caravan.

I couldn't find any stories in English to post here. All the stories I found about this in English were about Trump saying this. The story in Spanish has first hand accounts and doesn't mention Trump at all.

I wonder why there is such a difference in the two reporting styles.

Hopefully somebody with more time than I have will translate the important parts.

https://www.msn.com/es-mx/noticias/...suntos-pandilleros/ar-BBOV5Wq?ocid=spartanntp


Not sure why the reporting style is different, but I think it's encouraging to see these gang members leaving their old lives behind, and striving to better themselves by starting over in a place with more opportunity. :)
 
Not sure why the reporting style is different, but I think it's encouraging to see these gang members leaving their old lives behind, and striving to better themselves by starting over in a place with more opportunity. :)

Yes, that is nice isn't it. Along the way they stay in hotels and have plenty of money to spend.

I doubt they will line up at the border to ask for asylum, like some people here think.
 
Yes, that is nice isn't it. Along the way they stay in hotels and have plenty of money to spend.

I doubt they will line up at the border to ask for asylum, like some people here think.

Hmm...you are a glass half empty type, it would appear. Since you must assume one way or the other, based on my assumption that you have not travelled to the caravan to ask them yourself, you assume the worst. So, essentially you're no more qualified to predict the future than the "some people here" crowd.

It's fun to speculate, though, no? :)
 
Hmm...you are a glass half empty type, it would appear. Since you must assume one way or the other, based on my assumption that you have not travelled to the caravan to ask them yourself, you assume the worst. So, essentially you're no more qualified to predict the future than the "some people here" crowd.

It's fun to speculate, though, no? :)

Why do I need to ask them myself?

Do you not believe the people that have reported first hand what they saw?

You can use Google Translator if you want to see for yourself what the article says about these people.

When they come by where I am, maybe I can ask them myself.
 
Yes, that is nice isn't it. Along the way they stay in hotels and have plenty of money to spend.

I doubt they will line up at the border to ask for asylum, like some people here think.

They will be coming into San Ysidro where they are waived through if they promise to come back after their visit to the American's free clinic on the other side of the border.
 
This is a link from msn.com in Spanish that details first hand accounts of gang members traveling with the caravan.

I couldn't find any stories in English to post here. All the stories I found about this in English were about Trump saying this. The story in Spanish has first hand accounts and doesn't mention Trump at all.

I wonder why there is such a difference in the two reporting styles.

Hopefully somebody with more time than I have will translate the important parts.

https://www.msn.com/es-mx/noticias/...suntos-pandilleros/ar-BBOV5Wq?ocid=spartanntp

Google translator=

Something unusual during the march of the migrant caravan contingent is the presence of tattooed men.

However, once they arrive in a city, it is important to take advantage of the fact that the quota of the central parks (where the migrants camp) is limited, to establish several blocks away from where the support of the municipal authorities is concentrated as well as the attention of the media.

In Mapastepec were observed, about 10 blocks behind the Municipal Palace, young people tattooed in what is known as the red zone of this small town, one of them had the tattoo of a rifle along the right side of his torso .

That area is identified by locals as the focus of crime and prostitution in the area, and warned that entering after 10 pm is dangerous.

Yamali, in her native San Pedro Sula, Honduras, was wanted by a gang leader, and told 24 HOURS that she has seen some members of the mara travel with their children and wives.

"Many people come here, but they bring money, they stay in hotels, I also stayed, but I've run out of money," said the woman, who is distinguished by her white complexion and blonde hair.

Already in Pijijiapan, where the caravan arrived yesterday, a man revealed that he had money to get to Tijuana alone, "but I have to come in the caravan so there is no quarrel".

The shorts he wore showed a tattoo on his right leg.

Annoyed by the 30 degrees of temperature, he commented that "I am very stressed, right now, do not touch me, because I fit in ... hit the sun".

On Monday and Tuesday the caravan was in Huixtla they reported, but did not report, theft of cell phones and belongings among the members.

At the stroke of midnight on Tuesday, an individual was chased for several blocks after, according to the migrants, trying to take a child.

He was hit by at least 20 men and handed over to a patrol car; the Central Americans said they found him a knife and said he was a member of the Zetas, but they could not say whether he came with them on the trek or not.

Migrant Pact

France joins agreement

The Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Luis Videgaray Caso, announced that France will be part of the new Global Pact for Secure, Ordered and Regular Migration, promoted between the Governments of Mexico and Switzerland, with which it will seek to defend the human rights of migrants.[/QUOTE]
 
What a weird way for potential gang members to come in to the US; especially knowing that the caravan has gotten this much attention and will likely be met by US Border Patrol officers and potentially the military. If I were a criminal, I would not choose a well publicized caravan as a means to enter the US when I can scale the wall like many of the drug runners do.
 
What a weird way for potential gang members to come in to the US; especially knowing that the caravan has gotten this much attention and will likely be met by US Border Patrol officers and potentially the military. If I were a criminal, I would not choose a well publicized caravan as a means to enter the US when I can scale the wall like many of the drug runners do.

Indeed. It is not at all difficult for successful criminals to enter and leave the US under the radar. Airplanes and boats are far safer and more likely to succeed. Migrant caravans would be the most dangerous and probably least successful way to secretly get into the country. But it is also a legal and above-board way to apply for asylum. Which casts some light on the kinds of people who are in the caravan.
 
What a weird way for potential gang members to come in to the US; especially knowing that the caravan has gotten this much attention and will likely be met by US Border Patrol officers and potentially the military. If I were a criminal, I would not choose a well publicized caravan as a means to enter the US when I can scale the wall like many of the drug runners do.

It is the safest way for them to travel through Mexico.

I doubt they will line up to ask for asylum. They will just cross and get in like they always do.
 
Indeed. It is not at all difficult for successful criminals to enter and leave the US under the radar. Airplanes and boats are far safer and more likely to succeed. Migrant caravans would be the most dangerous and probably least successful way to secretly get into the country. But it is also a legal and above-board way to apply for asylum. Which casts some light on the kinds of people who are in the caravan.

Why do you think the caravan will enter or leave the US.

The caravan will only get them to the border, then the individuals will decide what their next step will be.
 
Yes, that is nice isn't it. Along the way they stay in hotels and have plenty of money to spend.

I doubt they will line up at the border to ask for asylum, like some people here think.

then why are they traveling with the masses?

yet staying in hotels and not going to cross with them?
 
This is a link from msn.com in Spanish that details first hand accounts of gang members traveling with the caravan.

I couldn't find any stories in English to post here. All the stories I found about this in English were about Trump saying this. The story in Spanish has first hand accounts and doesn't mention Trump at all.

I wonder why there is such a difference in the two reporting styles.

Hopefully somebody with more time than I have will translate the important parts.

https://www.msn.com/es-mx/noticias/...suntos-pandilleros/ar-BBOV5Wq?ocid=spartanntp

But what you doing to prepare for the illegal immigrant caravan hordes? Do you have your guns ready? Food and a secured bunker?

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I'm in NYC. The liberals took away my guns. Can you lend me some guns so I can survive this?
 
Why do you think the caravan will enter or leave the US.

The caravan will only get them to the border, then the individuals will decide what their next step will be.

I was talking about the conspiracy theory that criminal gang members are embedded in the caravan in order to infiltrate the U.S. I was pointing out how foolish that tactic would be if you were a criminal gang member wanting to get into the U.S.
 
I was talking about the conspiracy theory that criminal gang members are embedded in the caravan in order to infiltrate the U.S. I was pointing out how foolish that tactic would be if you were a criminal gang member wanting to get into the U.S.

Don't forget, ISIS members are in the caravan too. I hope you have guns to protect your family from the hordes.
 
How/why is it safe to travel though Mexico with 7,000 poor hungry desperate people?

That is because nobody is bothering the group.

If they traveled individually they would have to have the right ID and all of that.

It is not hard to understand.
 
I was talking about the conspiracy theory that criminal gang members are embedded in the caravan in order to infiltrate the U.S. I was pointing out how foolish that tactic would be if you were a criminal gang member wanting to get into the U.S.

Why do you think that would be foolish?

They know they are protected by the group as the police won't bother them as long as they stay with the hoard.
 
Why do you think that would be foolish?

They know they are protected by the group as the police won't bother them as long as they stay with the hoard.

If you and your family were seeking asylum in a foreign country and there were criminals hiding in your group, would you protect them from the police?
 
If you and your family were seeking asylum in a foreign country and there were criminals hiding in your group, would you protect them from the police?

The group doesn't have a say what these people do.
 
The group doesn't have a say what these people do.

They can report them. I would in a heartbeat. If the criminals are discovered, the whole group could be denied asylum. The person who reports them could move up the list for asylum consideration.

There is no guarantee that anyone in the group is going to be granted asylum. Those who apply are going to be subjected to background checks. They have to trudge across the Mexican desert for weeks and then camp at the border waiting to be let in. These are not career criminals. They are desperate people looking to legally apply for asylum. Anyone who does not intend to enter the US legally is NOT in this caravan.
 
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That is because nobody is bothering the group.

If they traveled individually they would have to have the right ID and all of that.

It is not hard to understand.

Yet, somehow you manage not to understand.

They travel in groups so as not to fall victims to dangerous drug gangs and criminals. And 7,000 people is not much bigger than some high schools. This is a non-story inflated for the gullible who susceptible to scare tactics. I guess that's you.

Try not to let politicians use fear to manipulate you. Think rationally.
 
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