Fighting corruption???

[redbeer]

Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.

 

[eohrnberger]

Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.

So it would appear.

But that's not saying there isn't the same thing on the other side of the political aisle. There probably is.

 

[CMPancake]

You don't actually care about nepotism and corruption.

 

[ocean515]

You don't actually care about nepotism and corruption.

There is nothing wrong with nepotism. Having people you know, and have confidence in, be part of the team, is a valuable asset.

If they are inept, and cause damage, then they are a problem. But that would be no different than any employee.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Trump supporters complaining about nepotism is simply too much irony to take seriously.

 

[ocean515]

Trump supporters complaining about nepotism is simply too much irony to take seriously.

Don't you think there is a difference between what Biden did, and what President's Trumps children do?

Were you disgusted to learn that President Kennedy hired his brother to be his closest advisor and Attorney General?

 

[redbeer]

So it would appear.

But that's not saying there isn't the same thing on the other side of the political aisle. There probably is.

There are plenty of crooked politicians in each party, no doubt....yet, at this time, Joe Biden is running for president and is clearly lying, used the office of VP to enrich his family, and even bragged about it....not too smart to incriminate himself....too corrupt, too old, and too dumb to be president.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Don't you think there is a difference between what Biden did, and what President's Trumps children do?
Were you disgusted to learn that President Kennedy hired his brother to be his closest advisor?

Trump has been giving his massively unqualified kids and in-laws positions in his administration and directly using his power to enrich his personal businesses and the businesses of family members. You do not care about corruption or nepotism.

 

[Rexedgar]

Trump supporters complaining about nepotism is simply too much irony to take seriously.

Nepotism and corruption in the same breath.........

 

[CMPancake]

There is nothing wrong with nepotism. Having people you know, and have confidence in, be part of the team, is a valuable asset.

If they are inept, and cause damage, then they are a problem. But that would be no different than any employee.

Nepotism is practiced by people who don't know how to hire and lead competent employees.

 

[ocean515]

Trump has been giving his massively unqualified kids and in-laws positions in his administration and directly using his power to enrich his personal businesses and the businesses of family members. You do not care about corruption or nepotism.

Massively unqualified? I haven't read anything that concludes the work they have done to help pass legislation, etc., has been inferior.

Quite to the contrary.

What do you have that proves they are unqualified for the work they have done?

I'll ignore you last claim as it's just an emotional outburst not worthy of reply.

 

[Airyaman]

There is nothing wrong with nepotism. Having people you know, and have confidence in, be part of the team, is a valuable asset.

If they are inept, and cause damage, then they are a problem. But that would be no different than any employee.

You called it.

 

[redbeer]

Trump supporters complaining about nepotism is simply too much irony to take seriously.

It was not nepotism in what Biden did for his son....it was pure political corruption in a country wherein he was supposed to be fighting corruption, at least that is what he says. Justice needs to be served.

 

[ocean515]

Nepotism is practiced by people who don't know how to hire and lead competent employees.

Interesting opinion. I would imagine that could be true at times.

It's been my experience, having practiced it myself, and knowing many business owners with their children involved in their business, that in general, what you claim is not true at all.

Perhaps some other factor is motivating your conclusion.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Massively unqualified? I haven't read anything that concludes the work they have done to help pass legislation, etc., has been inferior.
Quite to the contrary.
What do you have that proves they are unqualified for the work they have done?
I'll ignore you last claim as it's just an emotional outburst not worthy of reply.

Aha, so your claim is that Jared is qualified for all of the positions he holds and to "solve the Israel/Palestine conflict". Nobody believes for one second that you care about corruption or nepotism.

It was not nepotism in what Biden did for his son....it was pure political corruption in a country wherein he was supposed to be fighting corruption, at least that is what he says. Justice needs to be served.

Prove it. Show us the hard proof of the corruption. Your conspiracy blogs don't count. If Trump had evidence of it, he wouldn't have to be committing serious crimes extorting Ukraine trying to get evidence of it.

 

[ocean515]

You called it.

Called what? That inept relatives who cause damage are a problem?

Rather obvious.

Is there something else you mean to imply by your post?

 

[ocean515]

Aha, so your claim is that Jared is qualified for all of the positions he holds and to "solve the Israel/Palestine conflict". Nobody believes for one second that you care about corruption or nepotism.



Prove it. Show us the hard proof of the corruption. Your conspiracy blogs don't count. If Trump had evidence of it, he wouldn't have to be committing serious crimes extorting Ukraine trying to get evidence of it.

I've read nothing that suggest anything Jared has done has indicated he is unqualified for the tasks he has been asked to do.

Please post anything that proves otherwise.

I don't care what you claim about me. This isn't about me.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

I've read nothing that suggest anything Jared has done has indicated he is unqualified for the tasks he has been asked to do.

Please post anything that proves otherwise.

I don't care what you claim about me. This isn't about me.

So Jared, with no experience in anything political or international negotiations, is completely qualified to hold half a dozen important positions in the Trump administration, but Biden's son isn't qualified to work for an oil company. Go ahead and prove that one, chief.

 

[ocean515]

So Jared, with no experience in anything political or international negotiations, is completely qualified to hold half a dozen important positions in the Trump administration, but Biden's son isn't qualified to work for an oil company. Go ahead and prove that one, chief.

It would appear so.

Seems you have no information to prove otherwise, outside of your opinion, which is clearly driven by your extreme bias.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

It would appear so.

Seems you have no information to prove otherwise, outside of your opinion, which is clearly driven by your extreme bias.

Yet you don't have a single shred of evidence of any corruption on Biden or his son's part, or that there was any foul play whatsoever. You have no evidence which is why Trump had to illegally extort Ukraine to try to get them to create some. You guys are getting more and more desperate and pathetic as this clown show rolls on.

 

[CMPancake]

Interesting opinion. I would imagine that could be true at times.

It's been my experience, having practiced it myself, and knowing many business owners with their children involved in their business, that in general, what you claim is not true at all.

Perhaps some other factor is motivating your conclusion.

Running some Billy Mouth Bass refurbishing company and a country are two, entirely different concepts.

 

[ocean515]

Yet you don't have a single shred of evidence of any corruption on Biden or his son's part, or that there was any foul play whatsoever. You have no evidence which is why Trump had to illegally extort Ukraine to try to get them to create some. You guys are getting more and more desperate and pathetic as this clown show rolls on.

We've been discussing the President's children. Are you now shifting gears, since you have been unable to support your claims?

It's been my observation such shifts are the result of a lost argument and come from a place of desperation.

 

[ocean515]

Running some Billy Mouth Bass refurbishing company and a country are two, entirely different concepts.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Who is running some Billy Mouth Bass refurbishing company, and what would that even be?

 

[Moot]

Joe Biden says he was fighting corruption in Ukraine, hence the need to fire the corrupt prosecutor. But hey wait a minute.....over there fighting corruption, but then has his son land a million dollar job with zero experience. How is this fighting corruption? Ole Joe just thinks we are all stupid, I guess. Just another crooked democrat under the Obama years profiting off pay for play.

Actually, Hunter Biden had a lot of experience....

"KIEV (Reuters) - During his time on the board of one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Hunter Biden, the son of former U.S. Vice-President Joe Biden, was regarded as a helpful non-executive director with a powerful name, according to people familiar with Biden’s role at the company....

Biden, a trained lawyer, had served on the board of a U.S. company and had also formed an investment firm with fellow Yale graduates Archer and Christopher Heinz, the stepson of former U.S. Senator John Kerry.

Interviews with more than a dozen people, including executives and former prosecutors in Ukraine, paint a picture of a director who provided advice on legal issues, corporate finance and strategy during a five-year term on the board, which ended in April of this year....

According to four sources close to the company, Biden regularly attended Burisma’s twice annual board meetings – all of which were held outside of Ukraine.

A source close to the company said Biden took part in strategic conversations and shared his opinions and experience. In between board meetings, “there were constant calls, dialogue, sharing of advice, consideration of different options,” the source said. “Expansion to other markets was also discussed,” the source added.

Another source close to Burisma said Biden assisted with analysis of oil and gas assets the company was considering buying abroad, though a deal didn’t go through. The company was considering possible acquisitions in Europe, Kazakhstan and the United States, the source and another person close to Burisma said.

Both sources said that around the time Biden was appointed, Burisma was also looking to secure a financing deal with foreign investment funds, including one in the United States.

Biden helped to find lawyers to work on this process, before it broke down due to the start of the war in east Ukraine, one of those two sources said. “He was a ceremonial figure,” that person added...."

What Hunter Biden did on the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma - Reuters​

It's pretty stupid to think he didn't have any experience after being on the board of directors for five years.

 

[Airyaman]

Called what? That inept relatives who cause damage are a problem?

Rather obvious.

Is there something else you mean to imply by your post?

Nope, you covered it.