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Does anyone honestly believe that Trump will win again?

Will Trump Win?

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    Votes: 41 44.1%

  • No

    Votes: 52 55.9%
  • Total voters
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ajn678

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At this point it seems almost certain that Biden will win. I haven't been here much recently, so haven't had a grasp of the opinions around here. So does anyone still believe Trump wins in November? I don't see there being any possible chance unless Biden can't make it til November for some reason.
 
ajn678 said:
At this point it seems almost certain that Biden will win. I haven't been here much recently, so haven't had a grasp of the opinions around here. So does anyone still believe Trump wins in November? I don't see there being any possible chance unless Biden can't make it til November for some reason.
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The chance for him winning will always remain and given how 2016 turned out, despite the claims that he was going to definitely lose the race. He still did in fact win.

So I'm not ruling anything out at this point.
 
ReubenSherr said:
Survey finds Hillary Clinton has ‘more than 99% chance’ of winning election over Donald Trump | The Independent

Clinton has 90 percent chance of winning: Reuters/Ipsos States of the Nation - Reuters
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But state-wide polls have less good news for Ms Clinton. Data shows the candidates are tied in New Hampshire, while her lead in Pennsylvania is down to just three percentage points. The numbers in Michigan have been tightening, Mr Silver said, while New Mexico has become a “state to watch”.
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From your own link. Biden and Trump are not close in any state that will matter.
 
ajn678 said:
At this point it seems almost certain that Biden will win. I haven't been here much recently, so haven't had a grasp of the opinions around here. So does anyone still believe Trump wins in November? I don't see there being any possible chance unless Biden can't make it til November for some reason.
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The possibilities for changes are wide open.

Dystopian made-for-TV-movie is the new normal.

The fact that we're even having serious discussions about Trump not leaving in January if he loses
shows how far we've slidden down the slope to dystopia.
It shows how much potential variation in the probable events there is between here and there.

Trump's currently using "security contractors" to do govt work.

There's nothing in Trump's personality which says he's above using "security contractors" to do other things as well.
Trump may be like Manafort and think he's his own hero in an Ian Fleming knockoff novel

****'s only just now starting to get weird.
You may wanna bolt in for this one.
 
Bill Maher, speaking to some democratic official, said something like, “Trump’s approval ratings is low, he messed up on the virus, unemployment is high, how are the democrats going to blow it?”
 
When he won the first time he had baggage but not the baggage he has now. He promised he had a better healthcare plan. Two failures to pass something, he moved on. He's put many farmers in a financial bind. And the big one. He's failed to come up with a solid plan on the pandemic. While he was standing and listening to the experts he was yelling for states to liberate.

He had a chance and he did it up.
 
ajn678 said:
At this point it seems almost certain that Biden will win. I haven't been here much recently, so haven't had a grasp of the opinions around here. So does anyone still believe Trump wins in November? I don't see there being any possible chance unless Biden can't make it til November for some reason.
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saw an ohio poll today revealing tRump to hold a 1 point advantage. 3 points is the margin of error. so, it would seem ohio is a toss up
this time 4 years ago, hillary was up by a few points
voter turnout is going to be crucial
 
95% of the Republican base believes Trump will win in a landslide.

And I say, that's a good thing.
 
justabubba said:
saw an ohio poll today revealing tRump to hold a 1 point advantage. 3 points is the margin of error. so, it would seem ohio is a toss up
this time 4 years ago, hillary was up by a few points
voter turnout is going to be crucial
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I personally find it interesting how Obama won Ohio twice, and it flipped so heavily to Trump 4 years later.

I think Trump probably wins Ohio, but I believe it will be closer than Clinton, who got clobbered there pretty hard.
 
Clinton had a huge lead right up until the 'wipe the drive' smear campaign. That one campaign was enough to almost wipe out that gap. Look at what the swiftboat smear did for Kerry. People are very fickle, and if the smear is great enough, I could see it doing the same. Fortunately, Tara Reade was a total flop. No one cares much about Biden's son anymore, as it washes out with Trump's own kids. If anything though, the fact that they could not dig up a big enough smear yet, is good news for Joe. I could imagine no stone has gone un-turned. They've only three more months, the other smears came out a lot earlier.
 
We also haven't had a single debate yet.

I'd like to see a poll asking voters "How confident are you that you know where Biden stands on issues?"
 
ReubenSherr said:
We also haven't had a single debate yet.

I'd like to see a poll asking voters "How confident are you that you know where Biden stands on issues?"
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That could also cause a dent, but I don't think it would do as much damage as a smear. That whole drive smear was what Trump hammered on with Clinton's debate -- his most famous and memorable quote in the debate was, 'you'd be in jail.' Without the smear, he'd have had a much weaker performance, IMO.
 
ajn678 said:
At this point it seems almost certain that Biden will win. I haven't been here much recently, so haven't had a grasp of the opinions around here. So does anyone still believe Trump wins in November? I don't see there being any possible chance unless Biden can't make it til November for some reason.
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Recently, the CATO Institute published some research which I posted in a different poll...here:

American Voters, Do You have Political Viewpoints You Fear to Share Openly?

Basically that research said that 62% of Americans have political viewpoints they're afraid to share.

Broken down further by Party:

These fears cross partisan lines. Majorities of Democrats (52%), independents (59%) and Republicans (77%) all agree they have political opinions they are afraid to share.
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Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share | Cato Institute

Basically mostly those who have a strong Liberal view feel they can say what they believe.

We see that in this Forum, where certain members have no fear of asserting all sorts of evils to anyone who does not agree with their social justice orthodoxy. Others simply remain silent and don't respond.

I think this means that many people, the truly "SILENT" Majority, are very unhappy with the trends pushed by the Democrats and the Progressive-Left.

I think this may well turn out as a repeat of 2016.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Recently, the CATO Institute published some research which I posted in a different poll...here:

American Voters, Do You have Political Viewpoints You Fear to Share Openly?

Basically that research said that 62% of Americans have political viewpoints they're afraid to share.

Broken down further by Party:



Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share | Cato Institute

Basically mostly those who have a strong Liberal view feel they can say what they believe.

We see that in this Forum, where certain members have no fear of asserting all sorts of evils to anyone who does not agree with their social justice orthodoxy. Others simply remain silent and don't respond.

I think this means that many people, the truly "SILENT" Majority, are very unhappy with the trends pushed by the Democrats and the Progressive-Left.

I think this may well turn out as a repeat of 2016.
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So it basically means that if a number calls you for one of these surveys and they say something along the lives of "Hi, I'm a journalist with MSNBC. I'm running a polling survey and we'd like to know who you're voting for."

Then anyone who has these same fears, would think that if they answered incorrectly. That they'd be doxed, either losing their job to cancel culture, or being personally tracked down and attacked.

Well if that isn't a sad reality of the days we live in.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Recently, the CATO Institute published some research which I posted in a different poll...here:

American Voters, Do You have Political Viewpoints You Fear to Share Openly?

Basically that research said that 62% of Americans have political viewpoints they're afraid to share.

Broken down further by Party:



Poll: 62% of Americans Say They Have Political Views They’re Afraid to Share | Cato Institute

Basically mostly those who have a strong Liberal view feel they can say what they believe.

We see that in this Forum, where certain members have no fear of asserting all sorts of evils to anyone who does not agree with their social justice orthodoxy. Others simply remain silent and don't respond.

I think this means that many people, the truly "SILENT" Majority, are very unhappy with the trends pushed by the Democrats and the Progressive-Left.

I think this may well turn out as a repeat of 2016.
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That poll is fake.
 
Aletheia said:
Clinton had a huge lead right up until the 'wipe the drive' smear campaign. That one campaign was enough to almost wipe out that gap. Look at what the swiftboat smear did for Kerry. People are very fickle, and if the smear is great enough, I could see it doing the same. Fortunately, Tara Reade was a total flop. No one cares much about Biden's son anymore, as it washes out with Trump's own kids. If anything though, the fact that they could not dig up a big enough smear yet, is good news for Joe. I could imagine no stone has gone un-turned. They've only three more months, the other smears came out a lot earlier.
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Barr and his goons will have an "October surprise" for Biden for sure, but it won't stick, because nobody besides the rubes think Trump's DOJ are anything but corrupt criminals in the president's pocket.
 
Puigb said:
I personally find it interesting how Obama won Ohio twice, and it flipped so heavily to Trump 4 years later.

I think Trump probably wins Ohio, but I believe it will be closer than Clinton, who got clobbered there pretty hard.
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Its because Clinton is literally one of the most hated politicians in American history.
 
ajn678 said:
Its because Clinton is literally one of the most hated politicians in American history.
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Won't argue that. How much of that is based on right wing smear and her own shortcomings is up for debate, but I agree that Trump is only president because Clinton was that hated.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
The possibilities for changes are wide open.

Dystopian made-for-TV-movie is the new normal.

The fact that we're even having serious discussions about Trump not leaving in January if he loses
shows how far we've slidden down the slope to dystopia.
It shows how much potential variation in the probable events there is between here and there.

Trump's currently using "security contractors" to do govt work.

There's nothing in Trump's personality which says he's above using "security contractors" to do other things as well.
Trump may be like Manafort and think he's his own hero in an Ian Fleming knockoff novel

****'s only just now starting to get weird.
You may wanna bolt in for this one.
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...and the laughable conspiracy theories making their rounds demonstrate that Democrats very much fear he can win.
 
justabubba said:
saw an ohio poll today revealing tRump to hold a 1 point advantage. 3 points is the margin of error. so, it would seem ohio is a toss up
this time 4 years ago, hillary was up by a few points
voter turnout is going to be crucial
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Voter turnout is always critical.
 
I think there's definitely still room for him to win.

I do believe that for an incumbent to be so in danger of losing an election that involved a pandemic that could have carried him to victory easily simply by following the same type of things other 1st world countries have been doing, aka following advice of experts and speaking like you actually care about your constituents, says a lot about how awful the current President is.

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