Colorado Police Body Slam Woman

[holbritter]

The woman, Michaella Surat, assaulted the Fort Collins officer before he subdued her, the spokeswoman, Kate Kimble, said in a statement. A nine-second video of the incident, which occurred Thursday at a bar, according to NBC affiliate KUSA, shows the unidentified officer seemingly trying to restrain Surat. As she takes a few steps back, he flips her face-first onto the brick ground.

Some say excessive. I say it is not. What say you?

Colorado Police Body Slam Woman in '''Standard Arrest Technique''' - NBC News

 

[reinoe]

I don't see any links to the video, just the story. I'll reserve judgement until I get a chance to see.

 

[holbritter]

I don't see any links to the video, just the story. I'll reserve judgement until I get a chance to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6480eMIqu4I

 

[jamesrage]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6480eMIqu4I

If that's all she was doing prior to the officer slamming her on the ground like that I say yes it was excessive. But if she was fighting with the officer or some other stuff like that then no it wasn't excessive. The video doesn't show what led up to that.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Jesus... Some cops are such incredible scumbags. The video shows no assault on an officer, she was completely unarmed, and I think you'd have to stretch the truth quite a bit to consider that "resisting arrest". I guess she's lucky she's a white female, if it were a black man he would've been shot 16 times or choked to death on the pavement. Some cops are so bored with their lives they instantly reach to violence for absolutely every situation, even when their own safety is in zero danger.

A nine-second video of the incident, which occurred Thursday at a bar, according to NBC affiliate KUSA, shows the unidentified officer seemingly trying to restrain Surat. As she takes a few steps back, he flips her face-first onto the brick ground.

When you're a dirtbag police officer with no self control, someone "taking a step back" is grounds for bodyslamming them into the concrete then fabricating an "assaulting an officer" charge. Officers like this are the reason we've seen so much backlash towards out of control police behavior recently and belong behind bars.

If that's all she was doing prior to the officer slamming her on the ground like that I say yes it was excessive. But if she was fighting with the officer or some other stuff like that then no it wasn't excessive. The video doesn't show what led up to that.

Yep, the video shows zero provocation of any kind, so the people saying she definitely deserved it are just the kind of people that always give cops the benefit of the doubt 100% of the time.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Oh and naturally they're "withholding" the body camera footage from the cop allegedly showing the "assault". Thank god our boys in blue are ok, they almost died when she stepped back like that.

 

[WCH]

The reason is looked so violent was her spike heels slipping out from under her. If you're going to tussle with cops, wear better shoes.

 

[Mac77]

Jesus... Some cops are such incredible scumbags. The video shows no assault on an officer, she was completely unarmed, and I think you'd have to stretch the truth quite a bit to consider that "resisting arrest".

I guess she's lucky she's a white female, if it were a black man he would've been shot 16 times or choked to death on the pavement.

Some cops are so bored with their lives they instantly reach to violence for absolutely every situation, even when their own safety is in zero danger.



When you're a dirtbag police officer with no self control, someone "taking a step back" is grounds for bodyslamming them into the concrete then fabricating an "assaulting an officer" charge. Officers like this are the reason we've seen so much backlash towards out of control police behavior recently and belong behind bars.



Yep, the video shows zero provocation of any kind, so the people saying she definitely deserved it are just the kind of people that always give cops the benefit of the doubt 100% of the time.

Typical liberal/progressive race baiting here

If the girl had been black the race baiters would be crying about how white cops mistreat black people

But since the girl is white they are crying about how white cops mistreat black people.

 

[americanwoman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6480eMIqu4I

Just from this video I'd say it was excessive but there are reports she was assaulting the officer prior to the couple of seconds where we see her slammed into the concrete. Still, it could have been handled better.

Anyways, I love how some of the comments are about how "well women want equal treatment like men" like if this happened to a man of the same size, nobody would say it was excessive. Police should be better trained to be able to restrain someone without having to body slam them.

 

[countryboy]

The woman, Michaella Surat, assaulted the Fort Collins officer before he subdued her, the spokeswoman, Kate Kimble, said in a statement. A nine-second video of the incident, which occurred Thursday at a bar, according to NBC affiliate KUSA, shows the unidentified officer seemingly trying to restrain Surat. As she takes a few steps back, he flips her face-first onto the brick ground.

Some say excessive. I say it is not. What say you?

Colorado Police Body Slam Woman in '''Standard Arrest Technique''' - NBC News

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Moral of the story, don't assault a police officer, and you won't get body slammed. :shrug:

 

[RabidAlpaca]

The reason is looked so violent was her spike heels slipping out from under her. If you're going to tussle with cops, wear better shoes.

"If while getting dressed you feel like you might later be body slammed onto the concrete by a cop just for stepping back from them, be sure to wear better shoes!"

Typical liberal/progressive race baiting here
If the girl had been black the race baiters would be crying about how white cops mistreat black people
But since the girl is white they are crying about how white cops mistreat black people.

No, I'm complaining that this white cop mistreated this white person. It's like I said, I'm just glad she's white so nobody had to die that night. This cop looked like he was out for blood. If you and your cop buddy feel that you need to body slam an unarmed, small, drunk person even though neither of your lives are in any danger, you shouldn't be a cop, you don't have the right mentality to protect and serve.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Moral of the story, don't assault a police officer, and you won't get body slammed. :shrug:

Yet we saw no evidence of that. Unfortunately the way these things often work is that the "assault" is when the cop hurt his hand by bodyslamming you, and he bodyslammed you because you "assaulted" him. Regardless of what happened prior to the video, we saw enough of the video to know that he wasn't being "assaulted" in any way at the time he decided to jump to violence. It's trying to add justification to your screw up after you screwed up.

 

[Mac77]

"If while getting dressed you feel like you might later be body slammed onto the concrete by a cop just for stepping back from them, be sure to wear better shoes!"



No, I'm complaining that this white cop mistreated this white person. It's like I said, I'm just glad she's white so nobody had to die that night. This cop looked like he was out for blood. If you and your cop buddy feel that you need to body slam an unarmed, small, drunk person even though neither of your lives are in any danger, you shouldn't be a cop, you don't have the right mentality to protect and serve.



Yet we saw no evidence of that. Unfortunately the way these things often work is that the "assault" is when the cop hurt his hand by bodyslamming you, and he bodyslammed you because you "assaulted" him.

You are a typical bigoted lib who classifies everyone you see by their skin color

And a race baiter who managed to attack white people for being mean to blacks when the suspect in the video who was body slammed was white

 

[WCH]

"If while getting dressed you feel like you might later be body slammed onto the concrete by a cop just for stepping back from them, be sure to wear better shoes!"

Watch the video. The officer was doing a standard take-down maneuver. If her heels hadn't flown out from under her, she wouldn't have gone down like that.

 

[radcen]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Moral of the story, don't assault a police officer, and you won't get body slammed. :shrug:

Usually.

 

[HonestJoe]

Some say excessive. I say it is not. What say you?

Why would I need to say anything? We’ve got some mixed descriptions of the circumstances and a brief video of a very specific section of the incident so I don’t think we’re in a position to reach any kind of honest conclusion. It’s clearly under investigation by the relevant authorities with public attention so further information and clarification should be forthcoming and it’s perfectly possible a clear conclusion will come from that.

It does seems clear to me that there is an attempt here pushing people towards jump to a specific conclusion - “Police bad!” - and even if it were true in this case, I don’t think it’s a beneficial trend for anyone.

 

[Ikari]

The woman, Michaella Surat, assaulted the Fort Collins officer before he subdued her, the spokeswoman, Kate Kimble, said in a statement. A nine-second video of the incident, which occurred Thursday at a bar, according to NBC affiliate KUSA, shows the unidentified officer seemingly trying to restrain Surat. As she takes a few steps back, he flips her face-first onto the brick ground.

Some say excessive. I say it is not. What say you?

Colorado Police Body Slam Woman in '''Standard Arrest Technique''' - NBC News

I think the cop likely could have controlled her better and didn't quite need to go that far. But had she been "fighting" with the cops, then there is some amount of expectation that force will be used in return. It's certainly not the worst of police brutality out there, but likely an example of a poor choice.

Although I don't know if I'd have charged her with 3rd degree assault. If she was being drunk and disorderly, fine, but in the end it didn't seem like either side came out worse for wear, so the whole 3rd degree assault is a bit too much.

 

[Mac77]

I think the cop likely could have controlled her better and didn't quite need to go that far. But had she been "fighting" with the cops, then there is some amount of expectation that force will be used in return. It's certainly not the worst of police brutality out there, but likely an example of a poor choice.

Although I don't know if I'd have charged her with 3rd degree assault. If she was being drunk and disorderly, fine, but in the end it didn't seem like either side came out worse for wear, so the whole 3rd degree assault is a bit too much.

What did she hope to gain by having a physical confrontration with the cop?

Did she think that yelling loudly and pushing or putting her hands on the cop would make him go away?

 

[Ikari]

What did she hope to gain by having a physical confrontration with the cop?

Did she think that yelling loudly and pushing or putting her hands on the cop would make him go away?

I think she was likely a drunk, belligerent dumbass. And also to the point, that the cop likely could have controlled her without the body slam. You'll notice I didn't state that this was police brutality, it seems like a poor choice of force to employ, but if she was fighting with the cop, on some level you're going to have to expect force used.

But who knows what she was thinking or why, drunk belligerent dumbasses aren't typically thinking of consequences.

 

[Mac77]

I think she was likely a drunk, belligerent dumbass. And also to the point, that the cop likely could have controlled her without the body slam. You'll notice I didn't state that this was police brutality, it seems like a poor choice of force to employ, but if she was fighting with the cop, on some level you're going to have to expect force used.

But who knows what she was thinking or why, drunk belligerent dumbasses aren't typically thinking of consequences.

And if she was holding a gun for her boyfriend?

The cop could have treated her with kid gloves but the drunk belligernt dumbass girl pulling a gun and the cop had to shoot her when he should have immediately ended the confrontation before it went that far

 

[Ikari]

And if she was holding a gun for her boyfriend?

The cop could have treated her with kid gloves but the drunk belligernt dumbass girl pulling a gun and the cop had to shoot her when he should have immediately ended the confrontation before it went that far

At no point was there indication she was holding a gun (that we've seen). Let's not make up things to try to prove a point.

I wasn't even saying the cop should get into trouble, I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here or why inventing imaginary scenarios is necessary. He likely could have controlled her in other ways that didn't result in throwing her face-first into the ground. But if she was fighting with the cops, then the use of force is expected. No one is worse for wear, but also I would say that charging her with 3rd degree assault is likely a bit overkill. Drunk and disorderly would perhaps be a bit more appropriate.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Why would I need to say anything? We’ve got some mixed descriptions of the circumstances and a brief video of a very specific section of the incident so I don’t think we’re in a position to reach any kind of honest conclusion. It’s clearly under investigation by the relevant authorities with public attention so further information and clarification should be forthcoming and it’s perfectly possible a clear conclusion will come from that.

It does seems clear to me that there is an attempt here pushing people towards jump to a specific conclusion - “Police bad!” - and even if it were true in this case, I don’t think it’s a beneficial trend for anyone.

Unless she was swinging punches, waving a knife around or threatening people with a gun, there's nothing she could've done 10+ seconds before the video started that would warrant being body slammed onto the concrete. Terrified cops thinking they're soldiers dealing with terrorists instead of inebriated idiots they're supposed to be protecting.

You are a typical bigoted lib who classifies everyone you see by their skin color

And a race baiter who managed to attack white people for being mean to blacks when the suspect in the video who was body slammed was white

American cops tend to overuse excessive force. I know seeing unnecessary violence by authority gets you hard, but it shouldn't.

What did she hope to gain by having a physical confrontration with the cop?

Did she think that yelling loudly and pushing or putting her hands on the cop would make him go away?

Ah yes "putting your hands on someone" who is in your face and pulling you towards them. She should've had her head cracked on the concrete for an assault that heinous.

And if she was holding a gun for her boyfriend?
The cop could have treated her with kid gloves but the drunk belligernt dumbass girl pulling a gun and the cop had to shoot her when he should have immediately ended the confrontation before it went that far

Oh great, now we're inventing imaginary guns to justify it. Are you sure you're not a cop?

He likely could have controlled her in other ways that didn't result in throwing her face-first into the ground.

Two large, heavily armed cops vs. an unarmed drunk woman, this was the only way to keep our boys in blue safe.

 

[Mac77]

At no point was there indication she was holding a gun (that we've seen). Let's not make up things to try to prove a point.

I wasn't even saying the cop should get into trouble, I'm not sure why you're trying to argue here or why inventing imaginary scenarios is necessary. He likely could have controlled her in other ways that didn't result in throwing her face-first into the ground. But if she was fighting with the cops, then the use of force is expected. No one is worse for wear, but also I would say that charging her with 3rd degree assault is likely a bit overkill. Drunk and disorderly would perhaps be a bit more appropriate.

Of course your liberal crystal ball does not show a gun

but the cop on the treet does not have the benefit of seeing through walls and around corners.

 

[Mac77]

Unless she was swinging punches, waving a knife around or threatening people with a gun, there's nothing she could've done 10+ seconds before the video started that would warrant being body slammed onto the concrete. Terrified cops thinking they're soldiers dealing with terrorists instead of inebriated idiots they're supposed to be protecting.



American cops tend to overuse excessive force. I know seeing unnecessary violence by authority gets you hard, but it shouldn't.



Ah yes "putting your hands on someone" who is in your face and pulling you towards them. She should've had her head cracked on the concrete for an assault that heinous.




Oh great, now we're inventing imaginary guns to justify it. Are you sure you're not a cop?

Guns on the street in America in the hands of drunken assholes are not imaginary

The cops have to face them every day

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Guns on the street in America in the hands of drunken assholes are not imaginary
The cops have to face them every day

Then why don't we just shoot everyone on the spot just in case? They might have a gun! Justified! With this level of cowardice I truly beg you to never be a cop.

 

[Ikari]

Of course your liberal crystal ball does not show a gun

but the cop on the treet does not have the benefit of seeing through walls and around corners.

I've said "from what we've seen", jesus, does everything have to be some ignorant partisan attack? Did she have a gun? No. So quit inventing things. If there were any indication that she was armed, the cops would not have engaged in the manner they did. So obviously, they had already assessed that threat and found it minimal at best.

She could have likely been controlled in a different way but if she was fighting with the cops, then the use of force is expected. No one is worse for wear, but also I would say that charging her with 3rd degree assault is likely a bit overkill. Drunk and disorderly would perhaps be a bit more appropriate.