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Black Woman Dragged, Exposed And Arrested In Waffle House Over Plastic Utensils

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Black Woman Dragged, Exposed & Arrested In Waffle House Over Utensils | MadameNoire

[FONT=&quot]Waffle House was in the news for several reasons this weekend. One story is certainly getting much more attention than the other. The more popular one is about a Black man disarming a shooter at a Tennessee Waffle House.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]And the second one is about a woman who was arrested for nothing, similar to the situation with the two men in the Philadelphia Starbucks.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]According to [/FONT]AL.com[FONT=&quot], the altercation began at a Waffle House in Saraland when Chikesia Clemons, 25, asked about the protocol for plastic utensils.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]After Clemons ordered her food, she asked for plastic utensils. The employees told her that would be an additional charge of 50 cents.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Clemons and her friend Canita Adams told the employee that they’d place an order at the same location the night before and had not been charged for utensils. The employee suddenly cancelled the order. After that, Clemons asked for the contact information for Waffle House’s district manager.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Sometime after Clemons’ request, the police were called.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Clemons’ mother Chiquitta Clemons-Howard, told AL.com, “They didn’t even ask her to leave. She was waiting for them to give her the district manager’s card so she could file a complaint on one of the waitresses. When they went to go get the card, that’s when the police showed up. The officer should’ve come in and said, ‘We need you to leave.’”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Instead, this happened.[/FONT]
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Waffle House seems to be in the news quite a bit as of late.
 
First, who's going to be the first person to show up, completely ignore the question of whether any of this was remotely justified, and simply announce that it's her fault for not following unreasonable demands?

Second, what is the probability that they will have at some point complained about abuse of government power?




Never explaining why she was being arrested, officers, dragged Clemons out of the chair she was sitting in, pulled her limbs, exposed her breasts and at one point placed their hand around her neck. The whole time, Clemons repeatedly asked, ‘What are you doing?’

In response, one officer said, ‘I’ll break your arm, that’s what I’m about to do.’


Welcome to the land of the free, I .....guess....
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
i'm sorry but what the heck did the police need to be called for?
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To know that you'd likely need to know the part of the story that isn't in the linked article. In my experience there is ALWAYS another side to the story.
 
I felt sorry for the woman until I watched the video.

Did her parents not teach her to obey the officers and then file a complaint later? Once she started resisting, did she not understand it was all going to go downhill for her? Where do folks get the idea they can resist and still come out on top?

That said, I think she should file a complaint against Waffle House and against the waitress who was allegedly rude to her. In addition, if Waffle House is charging for plastic utensils with which to eat the food they sell, they need to be run out of business. What a poor practice.
 
Mr Person said:
First, who's going to be the first person to show up, completely ignore the question of whether any of this was remotely justified, and simply announce that it's her fault for not following unreasonable demands?

Second, what is the probability that they will have at some point complained about abuse of government power?




Never explaining why she was being arrested, officers, dragged Clemons out of the chair she was sitting in, pulled her limbs, exposed her breasts and at one point placed their hand around her neck. The whole time, Clemons repeatedly asked, ‘What are you doing?’

In response, one officer said, ‘I’ll break your arm, that’s what I’m about to do.’


Welcome to the land of the free, I .....guess....
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All true, but you're leaving out one little part -- she was resisting arrest.

How often does that go well for the person who resists?
 
"... In a statement released by Waffle House spokesman Greg Rollings, the Georgia-based company said it had information that “differs significantly” from claims by the woman.

“After reviewing our security video of the incident and eye witness accounts, police intervention was appropriate,” the statement said. The company didn’t provide any details about what occurred. ..."


Waffle House defends Alabama officers in controversial arrest caught on video | Fox News
 
I can’t form an opinion based on what has been presented. I have no reason to believe one side over the other and the video doesn’t show anything leading up to the arrest.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
why was she being arrested in the first place?
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I don't know but if it was for a reason the waitress who called them concocted, that doesn't matter -- you STILL don't resist arrest and expect things will turn out hunky dory. You obey the officer, you be gracious and most likely you won't even be arrested, probably just escorted from the building. Only a true idiot argues with and resists arrest. A smart person listens to the officers and then files a complaint or a claim against the company.

But, what she did -- I have no sympathy for that kind of idiocy.
 
Boycotting the waffle house will last untill 2am. Then it's All about smothered and covered hasbrowns to soak up the bad desicions and booze.
 
HowardBThiname said:
All true, but you're leaving out one little part -- she was resisting arrest. How often does that go well for the person who resists?
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I saw that. But they better have something good to justify this because it doesn't look good now. And I know what the restaurant itself said.

BTW, I don't know about that state, but some explicitly do allow use of reasonable force to resist an unlawful arrest. Think FL and GA may be among them.
 
Mr Person said:
I saw that. But they better have something good to justify this because it doesn't look good now. And I know what the restaurant itself said.

BTW, I don't know about that state, but some explicitly do allow use of reasonable force to resist an unlawful arrest. Think FL and GA may be among them.
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It seems to me that if officers are called to a business and asked to remove a patron, that patron ought to get up and walk out with the officers. It's hard for me to imagine any situation where the officers would just say "We see you don't want to go. Okay, you can stay." That just never happens. I have to wonder if she thought things would turn out differently.

I don't know the law, but it seems to me that if a person refuses to leave a business at the request of the business, the officers might have a right to arrest that person. Had she not resisted, I wonder if they would have just escorted her out.

But, whether the waitress was right or wrong in calling the police, I just can't imagine someone resisting arrest like that. It's just so far removed from the way I would have reacted.
 
Chillfolks said:
Boycotting the waffle house will last untill 2am. Then it's All about smothered and covered hasbrowns to soak up the bad desicions and booze.
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The lawsuit settlement will include free Waffle House meals, with a reserved parking space in front.
 
Some people tend to think they're above the law...SMH...
 
Is the uncensored version available anywhere?

On a more serious note, the video shows nothing but her being completely stupid and non compliant. She only looks bad in the video. If the cops come telling you to leave a private business, you probably should. The best thing you can do is record it and seem reasonable and calm and boycott them afterwards. Now she just looks like a moron who thinks she can do whatever she pleases.
 
Law enforcement SERIOUSLY needs to get out of the business enforcement business. Its one thing if she is being violent. But this was ridiculous.
 
VanceMack said:
Law enforcement SERIOUSLY needs to get out of the business enforcement business. Its one thing if she is being violent. But this was ridiculous.
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Really? You do realize the #1 rule when approached by a PO is to comply, right? I hope you never have an interaction with one...SMH...
 
Elvira said:
Really? You do realize the #1 rule when approached by a PO is to comply, right? I hope you never have an interaction with one...SMH...
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Sure. But do you honestly believe the police had ANY business engaging in this instance?

Be honest.
 
HowardBThiname said:
It seems to me that if officers are called to a business and asked to remove a patron, that patron ought to get up and walk out with the officers. It's hard for me to imagine any situation where the officers would just say "We see you don't want to go. Okay, you can stay." That just never happens. I have to wonder if she thought things would turn out differently.

I don't know the law, but it seems to me that if a person refuses to leave a business at the request of the business, the officers might have a right to arrest that person. Had she not resisted, I wonder if they would have just escorted her out.

But, whether the waitress was right or wrong in calling the police, I just can't imagine someone resisting arrest like that. It's just so far removed from the way I would have reacted.
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We're in dangerous territory if the analysis stops with "should have complied..."

I hope I don't need to lay out a series of escalating hypotheticals to show how that would lead to absurd results without additional principles in the mix.
 
Barnacle said:
"... In a statement released by Waffle House spokesman Greg Rollings, the Georgia-based company said it had information that “differs significantly” from claims by the woman.

“After reviewing our security video of the incident and eye witness accounts, police intervention was appropriate,” the statement said. The company didn’t provide any details about what occurred. ..."


Waffle House defends Alabama officers in controversial arrest caught on video | Fox News
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Oh - Waffle House said their information differed significantly from what the women reported?

:lol: Shocker, that.
 
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