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Mind your own god damned business.
Wasn't even a traffic stop.
"Didn't see you working......"

KA CHING! Nice new truck be coming.

[video=youtube;pRbjc068wts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=pRbjc068wts[/video]
 
This city is going to get sued, and this cop is about to be unemployed.
 
Man was then cited by police after trying to file complaint, he says

https://neareport.com/2018/04/12/worker-claims-railroaded-walnut-ridge-police/

City and prosecuting attorney respond after lawsuit filed against Walnut Ridge officer, mayor in federal court

City and prosecuting attorney respond after lawsuit filed agains - KAIT Jonesboro, AR - Region 8 News, weather, sports

WALNUT RIDGE, AR (KAIT) -

A Lawrence County man has alleged in federal court that he was unlawfully arrested, assaulted and harassed by Walnut Ridge police and that police have not investigated complaints of police brutality and misconduct.

According to an eleven-page suit filed April 5 in federal court at Jonesboro by attorney Mark Rees on behalf of Adam Finley, Finley of Smithville is asking for punitive damages as well as a jury trial in the case.

The suit names Walnut Ridge Mayor Charles Snapp, Police Chief Chris Kirksey, and Officers Matthew Mercado and Matt Cook, both individually and in their official capacity.
 
RogueWarrior said:
Mind your own god damned business.
Wasn't even a traffic stop.
"Didn't see you working......"

KA CHING! Nice new truck be coming.

[video=youtube;pRbjc068wts]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=pRbjc068wts[/video]
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Wow this guy really must have graduated summa cum dickhole from fascists are Us fake excuse for police officer school.
 
Is one of the questions on the final exam of police academy: "How much lunch money did you collect in school?"
It is no wonder why anti-bullying campaigns fail so often. Bullies get put on pedestals.
 
Another thing:
Even when he tries to comply, the 'officer' gives conflicting instructions.

It is a common theme:
Sir do you have a gun? Yeah it's right he......BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM.
Sir can I see your registration? Sure! it is right he....BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM.
 
Audio muted because personally identifying information might be present, or something else that the city does not feel warrants public distribution.

Officer does have a bad attitude but I actually don't really see all that much wrong with the stop, to be totally honest, other than the fact that the officer is behaving like a Grade A First Class jerk.
But it still looks like a perfectly good stop to me other than that. (from a legal point of view)

This applies to EVERYONE.
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
Let me repeat that:
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
I don't think I heard the officer instruct him to get out of the vehicle.

On second thought/second viewing, I could be wrong, the cop might have instructed him to exit the vehicle while the audio was still off but that doesn't smell right to me because when a cop tells you to get out of the car, they generally want to detain you, pat you down and/or have a look inside your vehicle, otherwise they keep you seated in the car. The officer did not pat him down, dumb move on the officer's part.

Keep your goddam hands out of your pockets AT ALL TIMES when interacting with the police officer.
Don't be stupid...putting your hands in your pockets makes cops nervous.

That thing with handing the cop the VISA card, that pissed the officer off and all of you know why.
It's not a form of ID, never is, ever...in any jurisdiction.
But I know what it really is, it's that jerk in the truck being a wiseass, that's what it is.
That's all it is.
Very funny asshole, I almost don't blame the cop for being pissed off now...almost.

Cops are allowed to have a bad attitude and have a bad day, just like everyone else.
I don't WANT them to have a bad day but when they do, I usually try to do what I can to let them know that I do not wish to contribute to them having a worse day, and that includes not pulling out a credit card like some wiseass.

All you conservative folks on here are acting like SNOWFLAKES, I guess a liberal actually knows how to behave around cops better than you do, LOL :lamo
 
POS police officer. I hope Walnut Ridge has deep pockets.
 
The cop himself has authority and man-to-man issues.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Audio muted because personally identifying information might be present, or something else that the city does not feel warrants public distribution.

Officer does have a bad attitude but I actually don't really see all that much wrong with the stop, to be totally honest, other than the fact that the officer is behaving like a Grade A First Class jerk.
But it still looks like a perfectly good stop to me other than that. (from a legal point of view)

This applies to EVERYONE.
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
Let me repeat that:
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
I don't think I heard the officer instruct him to get out of the vehicle.

On second thought/second viewing, I could be wrong, the cop might have instructed him to exit the vehicle while the audio was still off but that doesn't smell right to me because when a cop tells you to get out of the car, they generally want to detain you, pat you down and/or have a look inside your vehicle, otherwise they keep you seated in the car. The officer did not pat him down, dumb move on the officer's part.

Keep your goddam hands out of your pockets AT ALL TIMES when interacting with the police officer.
Don't be stupid...putting your hands in your pockets makes cops nervous.

That thing with handing the cop the VISA card, that pissed the officer off and all of you know why.
It's not a form of ID, never is, ever...in any jurisdiction.
But I know what it really is, it's that jerk in the truck being a wiseass, that's what it is.
That's all it is.
Very funny asshole, I almost don't blame the cop for being pissed off now...almost.

Cops are allowed to have a bad attitude and have a bad day, just like everyone else.
I don't WANT them to have a bad day but when they do, I usually try to do what I can to let them know that I do not wish to contribute to them having a worse day, and that includes not pulling out a credit card like some wiseass.

All you conservative folks on here are acting like SNOWFLAKES, I guess a liberal actually knows how to behave around cops better than you do, LOL :lamo
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No . Cops are not allowed to have a bad day.

Have a bad day at almost any other job and "being an asshole" to your customers gets you fired...
 
Bodhisattva said:
No . Cops are not allowed to have a bad day.

Have a bad day at almost any other job and "being an asshole" to your customers gets you fired...
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Let me put it another way, seeing as how apparently several of his superiors agree with you, because as you might have learned, he's not working in that police department anymore. ;)

---He's liable to have a bad day just like any other human being, it happens.
You're absolutely right, and he probably got fired for being such a dick that the department had to go to court.
Yeah, that probably pissed off everyone from his WC all the way on up.

But it does happen, and had the BSNF railroad guy not sued, he might have gotten an ass chewing from his WC and the buck would have stopped there.

You know, policing has changed many times over the years, sometimes gradually, sometimes not so gradually.
I was a young wiseass punk with long hair playing in a moderately successful rock band up in Minneapolis in the 70's.

One night I mouthed off to one of "the pigs" from the Third Precinct and the two of them responded by cuffing me, throwing me in the back of the patrol car...NOT BUCKLING MY SEAT BELT and tying me at my ankles, and taking me on a ride so wild that I basically got the crap beat out of me by the inside of the police car. Those nice new metal cages are definitely useful, heh heh.
They had to stop a few times to make sure that I was sitting upright in the seat. Yeah, sure...ha ha.
I kinda looked like I'd been in a car accident without a seat belt, facial bruises, bloody lip, oh and did I mention that I "had a little bit of trouble getting into the back of the car" because I "hit my head" on the way into the back seat?

Clever, ain't it? I got the message. They never hit me, not a finger.
Boy howdy, those Plymouth Fury III's with the 440 dual four barrel setups sure do have gobs of acceleration.
Good stopping power too!
Of course, being a motorhead as I was, I already knew that. I also knew that those old Plymouths had a lot of body roll on the corners.
I didn't sue the department because it never even occurred to me that such a thing was likely to get any traction.
Funny thing is, I was very courteous to the police after that, and those two officers were actually really nice to me after that, too. They were even super helpful on one occasion.

I'm just relating that old story to point out that both sides could have handled everything a lot differently.
And in the case that is the topic of this thread, that railroad guy could have handled himself differently, too.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Let me put it another way, seeing as how apparently several of his superiors agree with you, because as you might have learned, he's not working in that police department anymore. ;)

---He's liable to have a bad day just like any other human being, it happens.
You're absolutely right, and he probably got fired for being such a dick that the department had to go to court.
Yeah, that probably pissed off everyone from his WC all the way on up.

But it does happen, and had the BSNF railroad guy not sued, he might have gotten an ass chewing from his WC and the buck would have stopped there.

You know, policing has changed many times over the years, sometimes gradually, sometimes not so gradually.
I was a young wiseass punk with long hair playing in a moderately successful rock band up in Minneapolis in the 70's.

One night I mouthed off to one of "the pigs" from the Third Precinct and the two of them responded by cuffing me, throwing me in the back of the patrol car...NOT BUCKLING MY SEAT BELT and tying me at my ankles, and taking me on a ride so wild that I basically got the crap beat out of me by the inside of the police car. Those nice new metal cages are definitely useful, heh heh.
They had to stop a few times to make sure that I was sitting upright in the seat. Yeah, sure...ha ha.
I kinda looked like I'd been in a car accident without a seat belt, facial bruises, bloody lip, oh and did I mention that I "had a little bit of trouble getting into the back of the car" because I "hit my head" on the way into the back seat?

Clever, ain't it? I got the message. They never hit me, not a finger.
Boy howdy, those Plymouth Fury III's with the 440 dual four barrel setups sure do have gobs of acceleration.
Good stopping power too!
Of course, being a motorhead as I was, I already knew that. I also knew that those old Plymouths had a lot of body roll on the corners.
I didn't sue the department because it never even occurred to me that such a thing was likely to get any traction.
Funny thing is, I was very courteous to the police after that, and those two officers were actually really nice to me after that, too. They were even super helpful on one occasion.

I'm just relating that old story to point out that both sides could have handled everything a lot differently.
And in the case that is the topic of this thread, that railroad guy could have handled himself differently, too.
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You registered in 2005 a month before me? Were you gone for for a long time?
 
Bodhisattva said:
You registered in 2005 a month before me? Were you gone for for a long time?
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What does THAT have to do with anything?
Yeah, I registered in 05 but then got hired on a bunch of movies and other long term stuff and then forgot how to get back in, and then ultimately forgot about the board altogether and then only recently remembered.

Why? What are you implying?
 
RogueWarrior said:
Mind your own god damned business.
Wasn't even a traffic stop.
"Didn't see you working......"

KA CHING! Nice new truck be coming.

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I strongly suggest the cops blood be analyzed. He is clearly on a substance of some kind; he's paranoid, and won't shut up. He does not ever allow the man to adequately reply and is asking questions that have nothing to do with the issue.

He says "I have to prove why I pulled you over....and you didn't even let me do that."

Yep, this truck driver is going to be living on easy street supported by the taxpayers who employed this little boy
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
What does THAT have to do with anything?
Yeah, I registered in 05 but then got hired on a bunch of movies and other long term stuff and then forgot how to get back in, and then ultimately forgot about the board altogether and then only recently remembered.

Why? What are you implying?
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I just think it is interesting... how did you remember your password after a decade of not posting?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Audio muted because personally identifying information might be present, or something else that the city does not feel warrants public distribution.

Officer does have a bad attitude but I actually don't really see all that much wrong with the stop, to be totally honest, other than the fact that the officer is behaving like a Grade A First Class jerk.
But it still looks like a perfectly good stop to me other than that. (from a legal point of view)

This applies to EVERYONE.
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
Let me repeat that:
Don't get out of your ****ing car unless specifically instructed to do so by the officer.
I don't think I heard the officer instruct him to get out of the vehicle.

On second thought/second viewing, I could be wrong, the cop might have instructed him to exit the vehicle while the audio was still off but that doesn't smell right to me because when a cop tells you to get out of the car, they generally want to detain you, pat you down and/or have a look inside your vehicle, otherwise they keep you seated in the car. The officer did not pat him down, dumb move on the officer's part.

Keep your goddam hands out of your pockets AT ALL TIMES when interacting with the police officer.
Don't be stupid...putting your hands in your pockets makes cops nervous.

That thing with handing the cop the VISA card, that pissed the officer off and all of you know why.
It's not a form of ID, never is, ever...in any jurisdiction.
But I know what it really is, it's that jerk in the truck being a wiseass, that's what it is.
That's all it is.
Very funny asshole, I almost don't blame the cop for being pissed off now...almost.

Cops are allowed to have a bad attitude and have a bad day, just like everyone else.
I don't WANT them to have a bad day but when they do, I usually try to do what I can to let them know that I do not wish to contribute to them having a worse day, and that includes not pulling out a credit card like some wiseass.

All you conservative folks on here are acting like SNOWFLAKES, I guess a liberal actually knows how to behave around cops better than you do, LOL :lamo
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I have no problem with him and the VISA card. It is not against the law, it's stupid, but no charges.

At that point, this cop had violated sooo many SOP's he's bordering on getting his own ass arrested, starting with unneeded comments, insults designed to demean, and a complete failure to secure the scene.
The cop's complaints go down the drain the minute he turns his back on the suspect and looks in the cab of the truck.

Now dealing with his order to exit the vehicle? Where are the grounds? Exiting the vehicle for a cop is technically an arrest, police from that moment on have a responsibility for the suspects health. The suspect wasn't even properly instructed.
The cop does not complete the 'roadside' before ordering him out of his vehicle.
He brow beats the suspect asking series questions one after another without a chance for the suspect to reply, that's not allowed.
And...he continues through out to countermand his own orders. He demands this, the man moves to comply and the cop is on him.
Lastly, the accusation of "coming on me" is the cops own fault; see above where he failed to properly secure the scene.

I would have got down on the ground grabbed by gut and started howling like a ****ing banshee and not stop until I had a battery of medical professionals between us.
 
Bodhisattva said:
I just think it is interesting... how did you remember your password after a decade of not posting?
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I actually don't remember what I did, probably went the usual Forgot My Password" route?
Isn't that how you get your password when you can't remember it?
 
Fearandloathing said:
I have no problem with him and the VISA card. It is not against the law, it's stupid, but no charges.

At that point, this cop had violated sooo many SOP's he's bordering on getting his own ass arrested, starting with unneeded comments, insults designed to demean, and a complete failure to secure the scene.
The cop's complaints go down the drain the minute he turns his back on the suspect and looks in the cab of the truck.

Now dealing with his order to exit the vehicle? Where are the grounds? Exiting the vehicle for a cop is technically an arrest, police from that moment on have a responsibility for the suspects health. The suspect wasn't even properly instructed.
The cop does not complete the 'roadside' before ordering him out of his vehicle.
He brow beats the suspect asking series questions one after another without a chance for the suspect to reply, that's not allowed.
And...he continues through out to countermand his own orders. He demands this, the man moves to comply and the cop is on him.
Lastly, the accusation of "coming on me" is the cops own fault; see above where he failed to properly secure the scene.

I would have got down on the ground grabbed by gut and started howling like a ****ing banshee and not stop until I had a battery of medical professionals between us.
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I should probably amend my "perfectly good stop" comment because you've made some incredibly good points.
In other post, I talked about how cops in Minneapolis used to handle people that annoyed them. We've come a long long way in some areas and gotten worse in others, but I guess that shows how old school I really am, because I remember when getting roughed up by the police was just par for the course if you pissed them off.

I'm not an attorney, just a camera guy...former freelance camera guy.
On the whole, when they saw my press photographer plates they treated me fairly well, sometimes really well.
My job was to just get as much crash and burn stuff as the stations wanted.

You made especially good points about the countermanding orders, but I am just guessing that's a well known cop thing, like "testa-lying" on the stand in court, planting stuff on suspects, throwaway guns, etc.
Dirty cops are dirty cops. There seems to always be a couple here and there.
Most cops are just trying to do a good job but it's foolish to pretend that all of them go by the book.

Fearandloathing said:
Exiting the vehicle for a cop is technically an arrest, police from that moment on have a responsibility for the suspects health.
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Let's just say that it's the first step leading TO either an arrest OR detainment, because people get instructed to exit the vehicle all the time and they don't get arrested, they just get detained, cuffed, searched, pat down, and the cop usually asks to search the vehicle. Then the subject is further detained while the cop checks for warrants, and then if all checks out, the subject is released.
 
RogueWarrior said:
Another thing:
Even when he tries to comply, the 'officer' gives conflicting instructions.

It is a common theme:
Sir do you have a gun? Yeah it's right he......BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM.
Sir can I see your registration? Sure! it is right he....BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM.
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did you see the eyes in the rear view mirror at 5:17. if that aint the lizard people at work, then what is?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I should probably amend my "perfectly good stop" comment because you've made some incredibly good points.
In other post, I talked about how cops in Minneapolis used to handle people that annoyed them. We've come a long long way in some areas and gotten worse in others, but I guess that shows how old school I really am, because I remember when getting roughed up by the police was just par for the course if you pissed them off.

I'm not an attorney, just a camera guy...former freelance camera guy.
On the whole, when they saw my press photographer plates they treated me fairly well, sometimes really well.
My job was to just get as much crash and burn stuff as the stations wanted.

You made especially good points about the countermanding orders, but I am just guessing that's a well known cop thing, like "testa-lying" on the stand in court, planting stuff on suspects, throwaway guns, etc.
Dirty cops are dirty cops. There seems to always be a couple here and there.
Most cops are just trying to do a good job but it's foolish to pretend that all of them go by the book.



Let's just say that it's the first step leading TO either an arrest OR detainment, because people get instructed to exit the vehicle all the time and they don't get arrested, they just get detained, cuffed, searched, pat down, and the cop usually asks to search the vehicle. Then the subject is further detained while the cop checks for warrants, and then if all checks out, the subject is released.
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He actually blew it when he turned his back on the suspect; no jury would believe he could be feeling threatened

I'm not a lawyer either, but was the guy who put words to your pictures. I've sat through more trials than most lawyers I know and was at one time a paid volunteer at the BC Justice institute where you roll play various situations. They even have a nifty technique to force you to give finger prints, it appears a lot of people try to smear things up.

There was a celebrated trial many years ago in North Dakota (maybe SD) where a suspect who had exited his car as instructed and somehow tripped and went headlong into a passing truck. That one sticks in my mind because the police department was held criminally responsible.

Similarly here and with several cases (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dziekański_Taser_incident) the court has ruled that as soon as an interdiction occurs, the police are legally responsible for that persons welfare. One involved a case of a drunk who was picked up in an alley, taken to detox where there was no room, so they returned them to where they had found him and dumped him in the snow where he died. There again the court held the police responsible for his death and charged the officers with 3rd degree manslaughter.

If a cop says "stand over there" and you don't you are obstructing justice, so if he says "stand over there" and that is where you get hit by a car, guess who's responsible.

As it is said, police have an incredible amount of power. But with that power comes awesome responsibility.


Here's how it should have gone. Cop approaches drivers side window stopping just far enough back the suspect has to crane his neck to see you. You ask "do you know why I have stopped you?" The police officer will notice any slurring of words and what the driver says is often very revealing, lawyers advise saying only "no".

He then obtains driver's license etc., orders the man to stay in his car and returns to his vehicle to run the plate. He does this even if he has already run the plate, you are playing for time, the longer he waits the more nervous he gets.

If there is cause, you then return to the suspect vehicle, and order him out of the car, making sure you are two arms lengths from him at all times. You then escort him to the rear of his vehicle in a semi restraint manner and put the cuffs on.

Then you conduct a search of his vehicle, again IF there is just cause.
 
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