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Was Jesus hung on a cross?

it's just me said:
You know the Watchtower claims that Christ wasn’t hung on a cross but on a pole. They throw rocks at all the other Christian religions for teaching that Jesus was crucified.

It is interesting that the “torture stake” theory was introduced not by Charles Taze Russell (founder of the Bible Students movement) but by none other than the trial lawyer, “Judge” Rutherford. Trial lawyers make their living by manipulating words. They can shade and change the meaning of words and testimony in order to change opinion or even question established fact.

Rutherford made his living doing this in court and he continued his assault when he seized control of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society. He was a master at establishing doubt in the minds of his followers and he used it to great advantage while building a worldwide organization of followers who do nothing but parrot his failed and flawed theology.

The Watchtower has again introduced a “paper tiger”. Saying that Jesus wasn’t crucified has absolutely no basis in reality or the historical record. Yet some people fall for their flawed arguments because they fail to think critically for themselves.

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Just to point out, crucification could have been a pole, and many were. I don't think the words that describe the crucification of Jesus in the bible are shape specific. It seems to me as an outsider looking it that the shape doesn't matter, and the concern is more of a dig by the JW's at Catholics than anything else.
 
RAMOSS said:
Just to point out, crucification could have been a pole, and many were. I don't think the words that describe the crucification of Jesus in the bible are shape specific. It seems to me as an outsider looking it that the shape doesn't matter, and the concern is more of a dig by the JW's at Catholics than anything else.
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It has always been my understanding that Roman practice was either a T or a cross, and it's not that important to me, but for as long as I have been dealing with JWs they have been making a bigger deal out of it than is really warranted.
 
RAMOSS said:
Just to point out, crucification could have been a pole, and many were. I don't think the words that describe the crucification of Jesus in the bible are shape specific. It seems to me as an outsider looking it that the shape doesn't matter, and the concern is more of a dig by the JW's at Catholics than anything else.
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Wrong...we seek truth, unlike others who blindly accept idol worship and false doctrines...if they don't like truth, that is on them...
 
RAMOSS said:
Just to point out, crucification could have been a pole, and many were. I don't think the words that describe the crucification of Jesus in the bible are shape specific. It seems to me as an outsider looking it that the shape doesn't matter, and the concern is more of a dig by the JW's at Catholics than anything else.
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The op reads as pure J/W bashing.
 
Elvira said:
Wrong...we seek truth, unlike others who blindly accept idol worship and false doctrines...if they don't like truth, that is on them...
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Are you really this self unaware or are you putting us on?
 
calamity said:
The op reads as pure J/W bashing.
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Just the facts, ma'am. That's the History, they'll never dispute it, they just resort to personal attacks, especially this one.
 
Elvira said:
Wrong...we seek truth, unlike others who blindly accept idol worship and false doctrines...if they don't like truth, that is on them...
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That is the claim. That might even superfically be the desire.. but that is not the impression.
 
RAMOSS said:
That is the claim. That might even superfically be the desire.. but that is not the impression.
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You are being dishonest, as usual...who started this thread?:roll:
 
Elvira said:
You are being dishonest, as usual...who started this thread?:roll:
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How about dealing with the OP for a change instead of playing the victim card?
 
it's just me said:
How about dealing with the OP for a change instead of playing the victim card?
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Well, considering the "OP" went out of its way to single out and then bash her religion, what other choice is there, especially in Theo?
 
calamity said:
Well, considering the "OP" went out of its way to single out and then bash her religion, what other choice is there, especially in Theo?
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Again, that's the history. If she doesn't like it she can always dispute it, but it's common knowledge.
 
calamity said:
Well, considering the "OP" went out of its way to single out and then bash her religion, what other choice is there, especially in Theo?
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Oh, by the way, bad theology is still theology.
 
it's just me said:
You need to stick to the topic, which is something you have yet to do.
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Bashing Jehovah Witnesses? I'm still not sure why that topic is even in this sub-forum.
 
calamity said:
My question is why here? Did you decide to bash another person's religion in Theo because you knew you would not be challenged?
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If I was hoping for no challenges it didn't work out very well, did it? Now, if you have no actual questions about the topic at hand I will bid you good afternoon.
 
Elvira said:
lol...I know what the Bible says about it...it is something detestable to God... “‘Cursed is the man who makes a carved image or a metal statue, a thing detestable to Jehovah, the workmanship of the hands of a craftsman, and who has hidden it.’ (And all the people will respond, saying, ‘Amen!’)" Deuteronomy 27:15 "They took pride in the beauty of their ornaments, and they made with them their detestable images, their disgusting idols. That is why I will make it an abhorrent thing to them." Ezekiel 7:20
Leviticus 18:26-30; Deuteronomy 7:25,26; Isaiah 44:18-20...
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You are certainly not a Bible or scripture authority.
 
it's just me said:
If I was hoping for no challenges it didn't work out very well, did it? Now, if you have no actual questions about the topic at hand I will bid you good afternoon.
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Cross vs Stake?

Probably cross.
 
calamity said:
Cross vs Stake?

Probably cross.
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As long as it's not worshiped, it makes no matter...having images of it, praying/kneeling to it, is worshiping it...that is where the danger lies...
 
it's just me said:
This hell was Gehenna.
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But it was never a place of torment for evil doers...


It was satan’s prison.... all the stuff about our relatives awaiting us in the afterlife is a very modern addition..
Like most things concerning religion, it SOUNDS GOOD..... lol


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