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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougarbear View Post
    Only if you have added to the bible. Adonoi or Elohim is the most high God. Jehovah is his son. Spirit son. The great I AM who spoke to Moses on Mount Sinai. Jesus said he is the great I AM. I've shown you the versus the old and new testaments. Yet, you still want to close your eyes to them. Why?
    No one believes your Mormon gibberish, including me...you've showed me nothing...and it is verses btw...
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    No one believes your Mormon gibberish, including me...you've showed me nothing...and it is verses btw...
    The quotes from Jesus and from OT are in the Bible, not Book of Mormon. So, are you agreeing that you don't believe in the Bible as the Word of God?

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougarbear View Post
    The quotes from Jesus and from OT are in the Bible, not Book of Mormon. So, are you agreeing that you don't believe in the Bible as the Word of God?
    lol...no, they are not...you are confusing Jehovah God with Jesus Christ...
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    BS...we have the Bible because it is inspired of God, no other reason...keep telling yourself that to support the ungodly...
    Are you familiar with the Council of Nicaea?

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    lol...no, they are not...you are confusing Jehovah God with Jesus Christ...
    Exodus 3:14, God said … I Am That I Am
    John 8"58, Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

    Jehovah said he is I AM and Jesus said he is the same I AM. Through the transitive property of deductive reasoning, Jehovah and Jesus are the same being.

    Lord; and beside me there is no saviour, Isa. 43:11, The Lord who spoke to Moses was Jehovah, the savior (Jesus Christ). Again, simple reasoning concludes Jehovah Witnesses are messed up with their lack of understanding of simple scriptures. It's really a shame because most of the JW's I know are wonderful people.

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    Are you familiar with the Council of Nicaea?
    Apparently she hasn't. She things her JW prophet wrote the bible.

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    Are you familiar with the Council of Nicaea?
    Yeah, it was a democratic vote to make Jehovah God and Jesus Christ equal...that is blasphemy...the trinity is a corruption borrowed from the heathen religions and was adopted as Christian doctrine..the origin of the trinity is entirely pagan....John 3:16; 14:28...
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougarbear View Post
    Exodus 3:14, God said … I Am That I Am
    John 8"58, Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM.

    Jehovah said he is I AM and Jesus said he is the same I AM. Through the transitive property of deductive reasoning, Jehovah and Jesus are the same being.

    Lord; and beside me there is no saviour, Isa. 43:11, The Lord who spoke to Moses was Jehovah, the savior (Jesus Christ). Again, simple reasoning concludes Jehovah Witnesses are messed up with their lack of understanding of simple scriptures. It's really a shame because most of the JW's I know are wonderful people.
    I am he: Lit., “I am.” Greek, egoʹ eimi. Some consider this expression to be an allusion to the Septuagint reading of Ex 3:14 and use it to identify Jesus with God. However, Ex 3:14 uses different wording (egoʹ eimi ho on, “I am The Being; I am The Existing One”) from that used at Joh 4:26. Moreover, the expression egoʹ eimi is used in the Septuagint to render words spoken by Abraham, Eliezer, Jacob, David, and others. (Ge 15:2; 23:4; 24:34; 30:2; 1Ch 21:17) In the Christian Greek Scriptures, the phrase egoʹ eimi is not limited to the rendering of words expressed by Jesus. The same Greek words are used at Joh 9:9 in recording a reply by a man whom Jesus had cured. They simply convey the message: “It is I.” These words are also used by the angel Gabriel as well as by Peter, Paul, and others. (Lu 1:19; Ac 10:21; 22:3) Obviously, these statements are not references to Ex 3:14. A comparison of the parallel accounts in the synoptic Gospels shows that the phrase egoʹ eimi found at Mr 13:6 and Lu 21:8 (“I am he”) is a shorter way of expressing the more complete thought found at Mt 24:5, which is rendered “I am the Christ.”
    John Study Notes—Chapter 4 — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Only JW's would mix up two different languages centuries a part to try and fool their flocks. So, let me say it again with Isaiah 43:11, Beside me there is no saviour. And, you just wrote "I am the Christ. Christ means messiah or saviour. Was Isaiah also wrong? My regards to watchtower.

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    Re: Blasphemy or Heresy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cougarbear View Post
    Only JW's would mix up two different languages centuries a part to try and fool their flocks. So, let me say it again with Isaiah 43:11, Beside me there is no saviour. And, you just wrote "I am the Christ. Christ means messiah or saviour. Was Isaiah also wrong? My regards to watchtower.
    So you believe the angel Gabriel as well as by Peter, Paul, and others are also a part of that trinity...got it...
    "For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but through the one who subjected it, on the basis of hope that the creation itself will also be set free from enslavement to corruption and have the glorious freedom of the children of God. " Romans 8:20,21

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