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Pre-adamites decision

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I just came across a theory about pre-adamites. I have never studied this theory. But it looks interesting. Has anyone studied it and what are your thoughts on it.


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Babykat said:
I just came across a theory about pre-adamites. I have never studied this theory. But it looks interesting. Has anyone studied it and what are your thoughts on it.


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I don't know. What is the theory about?
 
zyzygy said:
It's about humans who maybe have existed before Adam and Eve, therefore, it has nothing to do with reality.
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When Cain was kicked out of the home of Adam and Eve, he went to a city full of people. If Cain was very young, like 16, then the question would be who were those people. Genesis doesn't say how old Cain and Able were at the time of Cain's murdering his brother Abel. They could have been 500 years old. If that is the case, there could have been many cities full of people. So, that would shoot down that theory.
 
Cougarbear said:
When Cain was kicked out of the home of Adam and Eve, he went to a city full of people. If Cain was very young, like 16, then the question would be who were those people. Genesis doesn't say how old Cain and Able were at the time of Cain's murdering his brother Abel. They could have been 500 years old. If that is the case, there could have been many cities full of people. So, that would shoot down that theory.
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It's fiction. Please don't tell me that you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed.
 
zyzygy said:
It's fiction. Please don't tell me that you believe that Adam and Eve actually existed.
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Of course they did! God lives and Jesus is the Christ who died for our sins and prepared the way for our resurrection.
 
Babykat said:
I just came across a theory about pre-adamites. I have never studied this theory. But it looks interesting. Has anyone studied it and what are your thoughts on it.


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Be more specific. There are many theories about pre-adamites.

Including all of mainstream science, since mainstream science recognizes humans as having been around a lot longer than 6,000 years.
 
Amelia said:
Be more specific. There are many theories about pre-adamites.

Including all of mainstream science, since mainstream science recognizes humans as having been around a lot longer than 6,000 years.
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Science does not include the myth of Adam and Eve.
 
zyzygy said:
Science does not include the myth of Adam and Eve.
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Science does not contradict the genealogical records of the Bible.

It doesn't give any reason that a couple named Adam and Eve couldn't have had the posterity claimed in the Bible.


It just says that there were other humans around a long time before the Abrahamic history says Adam and Eve were around.
 
Amelia said:
Science does not contradict the genealogical records of the Bible.

It doesn't give any reason that a couple named Adam and Eve couldn't have had the posterity claimed in the Bible.


It just says that there were other humans around a long time before the Abrahamic history says Adam and Eve were around.
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What chapter and verse would that be?
 
Amelia said:
What chapter and verse of science?
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Your comments make no sense since science saying there were people before Adam and Eve certainly does contradict the Bible...
 
Elvira said:
Your comments make no sense since science saying there were people before Adam and Eve certainly does contradict the Bible...
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Science saying that there were people before Adam and Eve doesn't contradict the genealogy given in Genesis 5 or 1 Chronicles 1.

The Bible is a history of the descendants of Adam and Eve. There is no contradiction at all between science saying that there were humans in North America 12,000 years ago and the Bible saying that Adam and Eve lived 6000 years ago and had a lot of descendants, some of whose histories made it into the Bible.
 
Amelia said:
Science saying that there were people before Adam and Eve doesn't contradict the genealogy given in Genesis 5 or 1 Chronicles 1.

The Bible is a history of the descendants of Adam and Eve. There is no contradiction at all between science saying that there were humans in North America 12,000 years ago and the Bible saying that Adam and Eve lived 6000 years ago and had a lot of descendants, some of whose histories made it into the Bible.
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Nope...still says Adam and Eve were the 1st...
 
Elvira said:
Nope...still says Adam and Eve were the 1st...
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Science contradicts that, as does ANY pre-Adamite theory. That is a given.


I asked the OP to specify which pre-Adamite theory he had in mind. Because there are many pre-Adamite theories, including mainstream science.

But science does have room for the genealogical history from the historical Christ up through his ancestor who is known to us as Adam. They are people. People write histories about their families. They often don't get all details correct but they often get most of them right, including the "begats".
 
Amelia said:
Science contradicts that, as does ANY pre-Adamite theory. That is a given.


I asked the OP to specify which pre-Adamite theory he had in mind. Because there are many pre-Adamite theories, including mainstream science.

But science does have room for the genealogical history from the historical Christ up through his ancestor who is known to us as Adam. They are people. People write histories about their families. They often don't get all details correct but they often get most of them right, including the "begats".
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That is not what the Bible says...do you trust fallible science written by man or God's infallible Word inspired of God? I believe the latter...
 
Elvira said:
That is not what the Bible says...do you trust fallible science written by man or God's infallible Word inspired of God? I believe the latter...
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Got it. There's no pre-Adamite theory you will agree with. So tell the OP that.

Your disagreement with pre-Adamite theories does not negate my point about science being compatible with the basic genealogy given in the 1 Chronicles 1, while still positing that there were other men on the Earth who were not part of the genealogical line about which the Bible was written.
 
Amelia said:
Got it. There's no pre-Adamite theory you will agree with. So tell the OP that.

Your disagreement with pre-Adamite theories does not negate my point about science being compatible with the basic genealogy given in the 1 Chronicles 1, while still positing that there were other men on the Earth who were not part of the genealogical line about which the Bible was written.
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Please tell me where in the Bible that is stated since Genesis 1:1 states, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" and continues on with the entire creation account, ending with man on the 6th day, namely Adam....Genesis 5"1,2, which you mentioned, states, "This is the book of Adam’s history. In the day that God created Adam, he made him in the likeness of God. Male and female he created them. On the day they were created, he blessed them and named them Man."...that certainly infers Adam was the 1st man created, ever, before any other man...
 
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Elvira said:
Please tell me where in the Bible that is stated since Genesis 1:1 states, "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" and continues on with the entire creation account, ending with man on the 5th day, namely Adam....Genesis 5"1,2, which you mentioned, states, "This is the book of Adam’s history. In the day that God created Adam, he made him in the likeness of God. Male and female he created them. On the day they were created, he blessed them and named them Man."...that certainly infers Adam was the 1st man created, ever, before any other man...
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I'm not arguing with you. You don't accept pre-Adamite theories. I got that.

I was pointing out to someone else that belief in science didn't require denial of the genealogical record in the Bible.



I'm not arguing with you. Your position is clear. My point was to someone else, about something else that you don't appreciate.
 
Amelia said:
I'm not arguing with you. You don't accept pre-Adamite theories. I got that.

I was pointing out to someone else that belief in science didn't require denial of the genealogical record in the Bible.



I'm not arguing with you. Your position is clear. My point was to someone else, about something else that you don't appreciate.
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Ok, fair enough...
 
Amelia said:
Science saying that there were people before Adam and Eve doesn't contradict the genealogy given in Genesis 5 or 1 Chronicles 1.

The Bible is a history of the descendants of Adam and Eve. There is no contradiction at all between science saying that there were humans in North America 12,000 years ago and the Bible saying that Adam and Eve lived 6000 years ago and had a lot of descendants, some of whose histories made it into the Bible.
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There is a contradiction if humans not created by God existed before God created the first human named Adam.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
There is a contradiction if humans not created by God existed before God created the first human named Adam.
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Yes.

But the statement I was replying to which started the current line of discussion was, "Science does not include the myth of Adam and Eve."


And there is nothing about science which rules out a couple we now call Adam and Eve being the progenitors of the long line which included Abraham and Christ. Abraham and Christ both existed. They had ancestors. Oral histories passed the ancestral history from generation to generation. Science doesn't require us to dismiss that genealogy. That was the point I was making to zyzygy.
 
Babykat said:
I just came across a theory about pre-adamites. I have never studied this theory. But it looks interesting. Has anyone studied it and what are your thoughts on it.


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Is this in regards to an early Christian sect called the Adamites who walked around naked?
 
Amelia said:
Science does not contradict the genealogical records of the Bible.

It doesn't give any reason that a couple named Adam and Eve couldn't have had the posterity claimed in the Bible.


It just says that there were other humans around a long time before the Abrahamic history says Adam and Eve were around.
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Science does not contradict the genealogical records in the Lord Of The Rings.
 
zyzygy said:
Science does not contradict the genealogical records in the Lord Of The Rings.
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*sigh*

You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

There is actual history in the Bible. One doesn't have to accept that the writers were correct about their interpretations of God's involvement to accept that. Denying the historical foundations of the work is ... well ... it's anti-scientific.
 
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