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    Catholic Church In Crisis

    Pope Benedict has spoken out for the first time in six years, since he retired. Pope Benedict Breaks 6-Year Silence To Comment On Clergy Sex Abuse Scandal : NPR

    Excerpts from Pope Benedict's 6,000 word essay;

    "It could be said," Benedict writes, "that in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, the previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely." Among the changes, in Benedict's view, was that pedophilia became seen as "allowed and appropriate," and pornography became widespread and accepted. The priesthood, meanwhile, fell into crisis.

    "Catholic moral theology," Benedict writes, "suffered a collapse that rendered the Church defenseless against these changes in society. ... [T]here could no longer be anything that constituted an absolute good, any more than anything fundamentally evil; (there could be) only relative moral judgments. There no longer was the (absolute) good, but only the relatively better, contingent on the moment and on circumstances."

    Though Benedict stops short of blaming gay priests for the epidemic of minor abuse, as some have, he claims that "homosexual cliques" were established "more or less openly" in Catholic seminaries, thus changing the seminary climate in such a way as to contribute to a breakdown in the preparation of priests for their ministry.

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Pope Benedict has spoken out for the first time in six years, since he retired. Pope Benedict Breaks 6-Year Silence To Comment On Clergy Sex Abuse Scandal : NPR

    Excerpts from Pope Benedict's 6,000 word essay;

    "It could be said," Benedict writes, "that in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, the previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely." Among the changes, in Benedict's view, was that pedophilia became seen as "allowed and appropriate," and pornography became widespread and accepted. The priesthood, meanwhile, fell into crisis.

    "Catholic moral theology," Benedict writes, "suffered a collapse that rendered the Church defenseless against these changes in society. ... [T]here could no longer be anything that constituted an absolute good, any more than anything fundamentally evil; (there could be) only relative moral judgments. There no longer was the (absolute) good, but only the relatively better, contingent on the moment and on circumstances."

    Though Benedict stops short of blaming gay priests for the epidemic of minor abuse, as some have, he claims that "homosexual cliques" were established "more or less openly" in Catholic seminaries, thus changing the seminary climate in such a way as to contribute to a breakdown in the preparation of priests for their ministry.
    Benedict is creepy as hell. Guess what? RC priests have been sexually abusing kids long before 1960. And hypocrites like him shielded the molesters and attacked the victims for years. Benedict can rot in hell.

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Pope Benedict has spoken out for the first time in six years, since he retired. Pope Benedict Breaks 6-Year Silence To Comment On Clergy Sex Abuse Scandal : NPR

    Excerpts from Pope Benedict's 6,000 word essay;

    "It could be said," Benedict writes, "that in the 20 years from 1960 to 1980, the previously normative standards regarding sexuality collapsed entirely." Among the changes, in Benedict's view, was that pedophilia became seen as "allowed and appropriate," and pornography became widespread and accepted. The priesthood, meanwhile, fell into crisis.

    "Catholic moral theology," Benedict writes, "suffered a collapse that rendered the Church defenseless against these changes in society. ... [T]here could no longer be anything that constituted an absolute good, any more than anything fundamentally evil; (there could be) only relative moral judgments. There no longer was the (absolute) good, but only the relatively better, contingent on the moment and on circumstances."

    Though Benedict stops short of blaming gay priests for the epidemic of minor abuse, as some have, he claims that "homosexual cliques" were established "more or less openly" in Catholic seminaries, thus changing the seminary climate in such a way as to contribute to a breakdown in the preparation of priests for their ministry.
    And if all of this homosexual clique stuff was known, why was nothing done? Joey Rats is just another hypocrite trying to blame anyone but the guilty parties.
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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    If anyone really wants to feel the rage about pedophile priests and sexual molesters and if you have Netflix, there's a 7 episode documentary that will make you physically ill. It's gut-wrenching, infuriating, frustrating and wholly memorable.

    The Keepers



    The Keepers is a seven-episode American documentary web series that explores the unsolved murder of nun Sister Cathy Cesnik, who taught English and drama at Baltimore's Archbishop Keough High School, and her former students' belief that there was a cover-up by authorities after Cesnik suspected that a priest at the school, A. Joseph Maskell, was guilty of sexual abuse of students.[1][2] The series was released on Netflix on May 19, 2017 and was directed by Ryan White

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    If anyone really wants to feel the rage about pedophile priests and sexual molesters and if you have Netflix, there's a 7 episode documentary that will make you physically ill. It's gut-wrenching, infuriating, frustrating and wholly memorable.

    The Keepers



    The Keepers is a seven-episode American documentary web series that explores the unsolved murder of nun Sister Cathy Cesnik, who taught English and drama at Baltimore's Archbishop Keough High School, and her former students' belief that there was a cover-up by authorities after Cesnik suspected that a priest at the school, A. Joseph Maskell, was guilty of sexual abuse of students.[1][2] The series was released on Netflix on May 19, 2017 and was directed by Ryan White
    Seen it, it is amazing.

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Seen it, it is amazing.
    It was during this period in the late 60's that my older sister, who was in nursing school, had to do six weeks of training in a Baltimore, Maryland Catholic institution for mentally ill people, but they were all priests and nuns. She brought home some truly hair-raising stories. At that time, I thought she was exaggerating but since then I've realized she wasn't.

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    I honestly don't know how anyone can still proudly claim to be a catholic.

    The whole corporation needs to be dismantled.

    It's the perfect gold standard of "absolute power corrupts absolutely".

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I honestly don't know how anyone can still proudly claim to be a catholic.

    The whole corporation needs to be dismantled.

    It's the perfect gold standard of "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
    But still there are some good people who remain Catholics. Just as people are able to believe anything they want, they can also disbelieve anything they wish to ignore.

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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    I’m just going to say this. All religions are wrong and corrupted. It blows my mind how anyone could believe that Jesus with all his power couldn’t build a religion while he was living. If Jesus wanted us to follow a religion don’t you think he would have created himself. Instead of having imperfect men do after he died and returned to his father in heaven.


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    Re: Catholic Church In Crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Babykat View Post
    I’m just going to say this. All religions are wrong and corrupted. It blows my mind how anyone could believe that Jesus with all his power couldn’t build a religion while he was living. If Jesus wanted us to follow a religion don’t you think he would have created himself. Instead of having imperfect men do after he died and returned to his father in heaven.


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    He did...it's just that not everyone chooses to follow him because the Way is not an easy one...Jesus knew that...

    "He now called the crowd to him with his disciples and said to them: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me." Mark 8:34
    "For whoever becomes ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of man will also be ashamed of him when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.” Mark 8:38

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