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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Babykat View Post
    Suppose the stove was off when they touched it or when they played in the road they didnít get hurt. Would you punish them or would you let them get away with it and believe that there is no consequences for breaking your rules. True punishment isnít done in anger or hate. Itís done in love to teach someone not to do things that will hurt themselves.


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    So you approve of everlasting punishment for a "crime" the parent knew you would commit?
    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by enscausasui View Post
    I pray he would put me permanently out of forum-touch with miserably hateful types like your useless self....
    Where's your sense of humor, man? You didn't get my response? You didn't get why I find your post so funny? Here - read my response again. I'll even emphasize the key-word.


    Lol. Direct your complaint to your CREATOR!
    Who knows....maybe, He'll put you out of your misery!



    Without injecting humor into it - the message of your OP is just so.........pathetic.
    Pathetically showing ignorance of the Scriptures, judging at which (and Whom), one does not understand at all. The Creator has full control of his creation! He can do whatever He want with it (much like the same way an artist would, with his art).
    It's also a pathetic tirade by someone who is helpless, in the face of something he has no control.


    Adam and Eve were given such an excellent life (compared to what we now have)......and, of all that was
    given to them, God only made ONE condition!
    Surely, you don't begrudge Him with that one? Lol.
    Why would He put up with disobedience? With ungratefulness?



    Lol. I can't help but think of this sense of entitlement, that a lot of people feel.
    It's insidious..........even creeping into faith!
    Even with their Creator, they now demand freebies......with no strings attached!
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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So you approve of everlasting punishment for a "crime" the parent knew you would commit?
    Why, does disapproval matter?

    You think.....even holding massive protests and shaming - and apostasy and rejection, out of spite -
    will matter at all?

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So you approve of everlasting punishment for a "crime" the parent knew you would commit?
    Who says itís everlasting. Itís just a short time out period. It will come to an end.


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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Babykat View Post
    Who says it’s everlasting. It’s just a short time out period. It will come to an end.


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    I don't know why people can't get that...there is no eternal punishment...God is just and merciful, He does not punish anyone throughout all eternity for 70-80 years of leading a sinful life...they simply cease to exist...Psalm 37:1, 2, 9-11, 29
    "However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron." 1 Timothy 4:1,2

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by enscausasui View Post
    Is Jehovah a self-inconsistent creator for both making Adam and Eve free and forbidding them to eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ?
    Seems more like a parable than a news report.

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by enscausasui View Post
    No, I am engaged with friends, on another forum, concerning the question of whether or not law per se is determinative of human conduct; and, a question arose regarding the self-inconsistency of lawful demand; therefore, I posted a question in this sub-forum, in order to glean the thoughts of others regarding my question, which question is of authentic concern to me; and, I do most definitely jump at any possible chance to discuss my pet peeve, i. e., that law is ontologically nonsensical....
    Never minding the antiquated coordinating conjunction + semicolon construction, your entire post is one overly-long sentence that requires unnecessary effort to read. If you sincerely want to exchange ideas with others, I would be grateful if you would make a stronger effort to speak plainly. It's not that others aren't able to read what you've written; it's that what you've written discourages response. Just a friendly request and heads-up.

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    I don't know why people can't get that...there is no eternal punishment...God is just and merciful, He does not punish anyone throughout all eternity for 70-80 years of leading a sinful life...they simply cease to exist...Psalm 37:1, 2, 9-11, 29
    The original comment referenced the expulsion from Eden. If banishment isn't eternal, when are we all due back in again?
    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    The original comment referenced the expulsion from Eden. If banishment isn't eternal, when are we all due back in again?
    So you were there in the garden of Eden? Interesting...
    "However, the inspired word clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired statements and teachings of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of men who speak lies, whose conscience is seared as with a branding iron." 1 Timothy 4:1,2

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    Re: Eating Forbidden Fruit

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvira View Post
    So you were there in the garden of Eden? Interesting...
    Such a weird response. Could you explain the knights-move in your thinking process that got you from there to here?
    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

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