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Christianity Getting Stronger

OlNate said:
Actually, we can never be a "good Christian", we can only try, though we will always fail.

Sorry, had to make sure the Lutherans were represented in the chat. ;)
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Everyone should be represented.
 
Are folks going to church for the religion, or for the sense of community which has largely evaporated?

The difference matters, and my sense is that more and more it is for community, which argue has it that even folks who go to church on a regular basis are not in fact religious, that the storyline that America is becoming a post Christian nation is correct.
 
AGENT J said:
Never knew "Christianity" itself was shrinking. In my area one thing that sticks around or replenishes itself are churches and bars lol

My church is a newer church and its one of two newer ones that I've been too. My dads church is still around and thriving and has been since he was a kid.

The only decline in the pittsburgh area i have seen over the years are extremists. There less of them and normal people are less likely to let them infringe, bully and go unchallenged. Thats a GREAT thing!!, its one of the many ways this great country is getting even better.
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In my area, we saw churches closed down due to low membership. Our church is sort of struggling for membership (its major members are elderly folks - and of course, they're either getting feeble, sick and are dying, and it doesn't help that there is another Baptist church just outside of the burb)....mind you, we live in a small city (which still has the feel of a small town).


Our church seems to attract the middle-aged and onward. We've got very few children. We tell our Pastor that maybe, that's what this church is meant to be for - older folks.


The Pastor tries to stick to the Scriptures, and try not to conform to political correctness.
At one point, there was an article in a magazine by the Baptist Church (the main organization) which was questionably seemed to be swayed by political correctness. There was talk by our church about segregating from the main organization. I think some baptist churches questioned that article, and looks like it was settled.


I imagine that in the near future, for those who aren't politically correct, home churches will replace the traditional ones. It makes me think about when Christianity was in its infancy - early Christians gathering in homes.
 
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Lursa said:
Who says not going to church means not being with people of like mind?
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Well of course one could gather in a home, a park, etc. to be with other believers to pray, worship, fellowship with one another. Most people do that in a building called a church.
 
Glad to live in a country where people are largely rejecting nonsense and mysticism.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Are folks going to church for the religion, or for the sense of community which has largely evaporated?

The difference matters, and my sense is that more and more it is for community, which argue has it that even folks who go to church on a regular basis are not in fact religious, that the storyline that America is becoming a post Christian nation is correct.
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Considering the morals of our society these days, that seems to be the case... reminds me of what Paul stated...people don't wanna hear the wholesome teaching/truth of God's Word anymore, they prefer to have their ears tickled...

"Preach the word; be at it urgently in favorable times and difficult times; reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all patience and art of teaching. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled. They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories." 2 Tim. 4:2-4
 
tosca1 said:
In my area, we saw churches closed down due to low membership. Our church is sort of struggling for membership (its major members are elderly folks - and of course, they're either getting feeble, sick and are dying, and it doesn't help that there is another Baptist church just outside of the burb)....mind you, we live in a small city (which still has the feel of a small town).


Our church seems to attract the middle-aged and onward. We've got very few children. We tell our Pastor that maybe, that's what this church is meant to be for - older folks.


The Pastor tries to stick to the Scriptures, and try not to conform to political correctness.
At one point, there was an article in a magazine by the Baptist Church (the main organization) which was questionably seemed to be swayed by political correctness. There was talk by our church about segregating from the main organization. I think some baptist churches questioned that article, and looks like it was settled.


I imagine that in the near future, for those who aren't politically correct, home churches will replace the traditional ones. It makes me think about when Christianity was in its infancy - early Christians gathering in homes.
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Well small town anything will usually see its ups and downs especially considering type of worship. Demanding and over bearing vs nurture and guidance.

I have no idea what you mean by political correctness and the impact to the church. Any person or church that feels they have to become thier own thin is free to do so in order for them teach Religion doesn't really have any place in politics unless the politics are trying to take away religious rights and freedoms which luckily in this country its factually not. Of course religion will always have SOME influence over a person but those influences are natural and should be separated the most they can when making most political decisions.

As for church vs homes, well church is certainly never needed as far as Christianity is concerned. My relationship with god is mine, nobody else is needed but the church has its many other benefits and some times negatives.
 
Elvira said:
Considering the morals of our society these days, that seems to be the case... reminds me of what Paul stated...people don't wanna hear the wholesome teaching/truth of God's Word anymore, they prefer to have their ears tickled...

"Preach the word; be at it urgently in favorable times and difficult times; reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all patience and art of teaching. For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the wholesome teaching, but according to their own desires, they will surround themselves with teachers to have their ears tickled. They will turn away from listening to the truth and give attention to false stories." 2 Tim. 4:2-4
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Well sure that has been a trend in churches since the 70's...."Come, we will entertain you, it will be fun!".....but what I am talking about is different, I am talking about people being starved for community as America has declined, as it has become all about the individual and all too often the greed of the individual, and Church is about the only place to get some and come away feeling good. I mean we could go to a city council meeting but those have become such depressing affairs, ditto for spending time with the HOA.......politics forget about as America descends into another Civil War...online places like DP have something to offer but not the whole enchilada... church is where folks go to get their fix. How much they listen to the message, how much they care about the message, is optional....counting butts in pews is not a good enough yardstick to measure America religiosity, not anymore.
 
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