Google/Yahoo/EarthLink/ and the rest

Where do members send and receive their personal email. Google and Yahoo provide a “free” service, but there is reporting that they may be accessing “private” accounts, mining data. Who do you use?

Outlook for business and Gmail as a secondary, especially for files with large attachments. Trying to get clients to use Dropbox but it isn't happening particularly well.

Yahoo, Live and COX for junk.

Rexedgar said:

Where do members send and receive their personal email. Google and Yahoo provide a “free” service, but there is reporting that they may be accessing “private” accounts, mining data. Who do you use?

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Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, Apple and everyone that provide email service all "mine" your email for data.. usually for targeted advertising and of course quality of service. This has been known since day 1 of "free email".. AOL did it, and many others. Ever wonder why you dont get so much spam anymore.. or that there is a spam filter? If they dont "mine" aka "read" the emails, then it is not possible to stop the spam.

Only way not to have people read your email is to set up your own email server on a dedicated IP in your own house.

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Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, Apple and everyone that provide email service all "mine" your email for data.. usually for targeted advertising and of course quality of service. This has been known since day 1 of "free email".. AOL did it, and many others. Ever wonder why you dont get so much spam anymore.. or that there is a spam filter? If they dont "mine" aka "read" the emails, then it is not possible to stop the spam.

Only way not to have people read your email is to set up your own email server on a dedicated IP in your own house.

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Mange tak......

Rexedgar said:

Where do members send and receive their personal email. Google and Yahoo provide a “free” service, but there is reporting that they may be accessing “private” accounts, mining data. Who do you use?

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Do a search for web hosting providers. You can set up your own mail server for a few bucks a month. Most places will also sell you a domain name so you can send mail to rex@edgar.com

Nobody can read or mine your stuff. Of course, this does not stop the mining of your content when you send a message to someone on a public mail service.

More proof that conservatives didn't actually STUDY some of the IT deregulation they were pushing so adamantly these last few years.

And no, I am not JUST talking about net neutrality, I am talking about the entire slate of big data mining backed dereg that sought the okay to sniff anything and everything going in or out of your machine once your packets hit the pipes.

And yes, the truth is, if you want complete privacy, you're going to have to "live in a jar" like the Gene Hackman character in "Enemy of the State", complete with a full Faraday Cage around the entire building and no wires or antennas in or out, and all your communications will have to be via "sneaker net".

Technopedia:

"The term sneakernet is a tongue-in-cheek way of saying there is no network. Oftentimes, simply plugging in a USB drive is the best way to get data from point A to point B. There are also genuine uses where networks may be cost prohibitive, as well as in environments where security is a top priority. This prevents outside access to files because the computers are not connected to a network (commonly known as an air gap). Thus, there is no network to hack or breach."

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In other words, you'll have to have an AIR GAP between you and the universe and your side will have to be sealed shut.

natsb said:

Do a search for web hosting providers. You can set up your own mail server for a few bucks a month. Most places will also sell you a domain name so you can send mail to rex@edgar.com

Nobody can read or mine your stuff. Of course, this does not stop the mining of your content when you send a message to someone on a public mail service.

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Webhosting is not secure... well it is less secure than places like Google imo. The employees can easily read your stuff if they want. Only secure way is to set up your own machine in your own house with a dedicated line..

PeteEU said:

Webhosting is not secure... well it is less secure than places like Google imo. The employees can easily read your stuff if they want. Only secure way is to set up your own machine in your own house with a dedicated line..

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Web hosting is very secure... The employees will find reading your stuff far from easy. Unless of course, you volunteer to give them the keys and certificates needed to get past the encryption. A server sitting in your house is no more or less secure than if that server was sitting in a data center, under lock, with armed security guards 24x7. No wait...

natsb said:

Web hosting is very secure... The employees will find reading your stuff far from easy. Unless of course, you volunteer to give them the keys and certificates needed to get past the encryption. A server sitting in your house is no more or less secure than if that server was sitting in a data center, under lock, with armed security guards 24x7. No wait...

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Same for Google and others... there is no real difference. Yet people dont trust Google but do trust One.com or other hosting companies.. why? It is the same backend and software they are running in many cases.... hell many hosting companies use server farms owned by... Google, Amazon and Microsoft.. ups!

natsb said:

Web hosting is very secure... The employees will find reading your stuff far from easy. Unless of course, you volunteer to give them the keys and certificates needed to get past the encryption. A server sitting in your house is no more or less secure than if that server was sitting in a data center, under lock, with armed security guards 24x7. No wait...

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With a web host they can watch everything you do if they really want.