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Windows 10 Update Lockup

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So I have a machine running Win10 which has been nagging me to allow it to update. This afternoon I decide to let it. 2+ hours later, it reboots a last time and comes up to the Welcome screen with my name on it, then a few seconds later the screen goes dark. Only the mouse pointer remains. Ctrl-Alt-Del gives me the blue screen with Task Manager as on of the options. I select that, but apparently because that requires the OS to be completely up, the screen doesn't show. I have both a VGA monitor and my actual monitor connected (HDMI). The monitors behave the same. I've done numerous reboots, of course. The reboots just do the Welcome then blank sequence.

Anyone having problems with the latest Win 10 update,, or know a way out of this that won't fry my environment and data? Much of it is backed up or on secondary (non OS) drives, so I'm good there, but I wouldn't want to have to reinstall all of the executables and dll's on the main drive. I have a lot of software from various vendors there and that stuff is painful to get up, running and playing nice.

TIA! :(

I do have the original install disk for the OS, but I'd rather not go there. I doubt it's bootable anyway.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
So I have a machine running Win10 which has been nagging me to allow it to update. This afternoon I decide to let it. 2+ hours later, it reboots a last time and comes up to the Welcome screen with my name on it, then a few seconds later the screen goes dark. Only the mouse pointer remains. Ctrl-Alt-Del gives me the blue screen with Task Manager as on of the options. I select that, but apparently because that requires the OS to be completely up, the screen doesn't show. I have both a VGA monitor and my actual monitor connected (HDMI). The monitors behave the same. I've done numerous reboots, of course. The reboots just do the Welcome then blank sequence.

Anyone having problems with the latest Win 10 update,, or know a way out of this that won't fry my environment and data? Much of it is backed up or on secondary (non OS) drives, so I'm good there, but I wouldn't want to have to reinstall all of the executables and dll's on the main drive. I have a lot of software from various vendors there and that stuff is painful to get up, running and playing nice.

TIA! :(

I do have the original install disk for the OS, but I'd rather not go there. I doubt it's bootable anyway.
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Nope- my last ones were yesterday, no issues
 
<alt>doxygen said:
So I have a machine running Win10 which has been nagging me to allow it to update. This afternoon I decide to let it. 2+ hours later, it reboots a last time and comes up to the Welcome screen with my name on it, then a few seconds later the screen goes dark. Only the mouse pointer remains. Ctrl-Alt-Del gives me the blue screen with Task Manager as on of the options. I select that, but apparently because that requires the OS to be completely up, the screen doesn't show. I have both a VGA monitor and my actual monitor connected (HDMI). The monitors behave the same. I've done numerous reboots, of course. The reboots just do the Welcome then blank sequence.

Anyone having problems with the latest Win 10 update,, or know a way out of this that won't fry my environment and data? Much of it is backed up or on secondary (non OS) drives, so I'm good there, but I wouldn't want to have to reinstall all of the executables and dll's on the main drive. I have a lot of software from various vendors there and that stuff is painful to get up, running and playing nice.

TIA! :(

I do have the original install disk for the OS, but I'd rather not go there. I doubt it's bootable anyway.
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It sounds like there's a really bad time lag for windows to finalize the settings after the update, for one reason or another.

Log-in past the welcome screen and wait an hour to see if maybe the final settings are taking forever - it's common, happened to me.
 
JANFU said:
Nope- my last ones were yesterday, no issues
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All my 'puters did a Windows 10 update late yesterday as well, and they're working fine - so far, knock on wood, rub a red head's head, cross my fingers, etc.
 
Mine updated today with no issues. Hope you can get this resolved without too much trouble.
 
Can you boot in safe mode? Sometimes you can remedy things from there. If so, you may want to install latest video drivers too before reboot.
If that fails, I think windows has a repair mode. Been a while since I had to mess with it.
 
Mach said:
Can you boot in safe mode? Sometimes you can remedy things from there. If so, you may want to install latest video drivers too before reboot.
If that fails, I think windows has a repair mode. Been a while since I had to mess with it.
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Nah, I looked into that stuff. Seems Windows 8 (I never used it) and 10 don't have the good old F* key abort to get you into different modes. I think there's a way to RE-boot into it, but you have to have Windows running to select it. Going to see if I can find a bootable disk...

Thanks for the input, guys. It's actually helpful to know that you all were able to update without issue.
 
I just hate it when a computer breaks. That turns a good day into a bad day.
Best of luck solving the issue.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
I just hate it when a computer breaks. That turns a good day into a bad day.
Best of luck solving the issue.
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Thanks. I'll figure it out. I just don't want to be down for long, and I don't want to lose anything. That's my hobby machine, dammit!;)
 
My machine updated yesterday morning with no issues so far.

I really have no suggestions. Hope everything works out for the best.
 
MovingPictures said:
It sounds like there's a really bad time lag for windows to finalize the settings after the update, for one reason or another.

Log-in past the welcome screen and wait an hour to see if maybe the final settings are taking forever - it's common, happened to me.
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^This^ I've had it happen with a couple different updates on two computers. Just get to the black screen and let it sit for a while. Like MP said, it sometimes takes a while to finalize settings - should happen only on the first reboot after update.
 
Just an update : Tried everything I could think of but nothing worked. I had the original distro of Win 10 that I got when I put this machine together, and that allowed me to boot and try patching and repairing in a non-destructive way. No joy. I did manage to get into DOS and move some things that I didn't want to lose to other drives, but I did have to reinstall Win 10 and then the updates/patches. Now I'm going through reinstalling, re-registering, etc. all of the applications and 3rd party ware that I had which required being put in c:\program files xx, or somewhere else that got wiped (that stuff you generally can't save by "copying"). Going smoothly so far, but I've got a long way to go.

One thing that annoyed me... I thought when Windows did updates it created restore points for you(?). I had NONE. That distro disk would have allowed me to go back if any restore point existed.

Oh, well. I should have it usable sometime tomorrow, but I'll probably be finding bits and pieces that I haven't restored yet for some time.

Thanks!
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Just an update : Tried everything I could think of but nothing worked. I had the original distro of Win 10 that I got when I put this machine together, and that allowed me to boot and try patching and repairing in a non-destructive way. No joy. I did manage to get into DOS and move some things that I didn't want to lose to other drives, but I did have to reinstall Win 10 and then the updates/patches. Now I'm going through reinstalling, re-registering, etc. all of the applications and 3rd party ware that I had which required being put in c:\program files xx, or somewhere else that got wiped (that stuff you generally can't save by "copying"). Going smoothly so far, but I've got a long way to go.

One thing that annoyed me... I thought when Windows did updates it created restore points for you(?). I had NONE. That distro disk would have allowed me to go back if any restore point existed.

Oh, well. I should have it usable sometime tomorrow, but I'll probably be finding bits and pieces that I haven't restored yet for some time.

Thanks!
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This is one of the drawbacks to Windows and their insistence on putting everything on one partition. I recommend partitioning your drive where all system files exist in one place (your C:\ drive) and everything else sits on a different partition (for example, a D:\ drive). That way if you have to reinstall Windows, your files should be untouched, as well (possibly) as your software programs. Also, instead of doing a DOS move of your files, look into Knoppix live CD. So easy for transferring files.

Also, while it's not helpful now, in the future when trying to diagnose problems where you have a blank screen, disconnect one of your monitors. I know it sounds silly, but it's helped me on a few different occasions. Furthermore, once you get your Windows installed initially, just download a current .iso file from Windows and burn to a DVD using ImgBurn. That way if this happens again, you can just restore to a newer image of Windows without having to do as many updates.

As far as the problem you had, you should be able to use any bootable Windows 10 disc (for example, the .iso I mentioned earlier) to do some repairs on your machine. However, it is always a good idea to have a system repair disc for your system.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Oh goodness, everyone saying theirs updated yesterday, bet mine wants to tonight...
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Just leave your machine on and don't touch it until you get to the welcome screen.

At times it might seem like an eternity, so be prepared for that and don't panic.
 
MovingPictures said:
Just leave your machine on and don't touch it until you get to the welcome screen.

At times it might seem like an eternity, so be prepared for that and don't panic.
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What do mean? Don't shut down? I "shut down" every night. I have a HP laptop about 2 years old. When updates come up, I hit "remind me later" when I shut down (even if I don't hit "shut down and install updates" it does it anyway).

Last update, it loaded Chrome and keeps prompting me to install it. I wont.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
What do mean? Don't shut down? I "shut down" every night. I have a HP laptop about 2 years old. When updates come up, I hit "remind me later" when I shut down (even if I don't hit "shut down and install updates" it does it anyway).

Last update, it loaded Chrome and keeps prompting me to install it. I wont.
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Some people get frustrated with Windows update taking too long, so they simply force their machine to shut down (not hibernate) because they can't wait to get on the internet.
 
MovingPictures said:
Some people get frustrated with Windows update taking too long, so they simply force their machine to shut down (not hibernate) because they can't wait to get on the internet.
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Ahh, I see. I don't do that, I read a book or mow the grass or something. I have had them take up to an hour and a half.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Ahh, I see. I don't do that, I read a book or mow the grass or something. I have had them take up to an hour and a half.
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It's also a great time to rub one out! :mrgreen:
 
<alt>doxygen said:
So I have a machine running Win10 which has been nagging me to allow it to update. This afternoon I decide to let it. 2+ hours later, it reboots a last time and comes up to the Welcome screen with my name on it, then a few seconds later the screen goes dark. Only the mouse pointer remains. Ctrl-Alt-Del gives me the blue screen with Task Manager as on of the options. I select that, but apparently because that requires the OS to be completely up, the screen doesn't show. I have both a VGA monitor and my actual monitor connected (HDMI). The monitors behave the same. I've done numerous reboots, of course. The reboots just do the Welcome then blank sequence.

Anyone having problems with the latest Win 10 update,, or know a way out of this that won't fry my environment and data? Much of it is backed up or on secondary (non OS) drives, so I'm good there, but I wouldn't want to have to reinstall all of the executables and dll's on the main drive. I have a lot of software from various vendors there and that stuff is painful to get up, running and playing nice.

TIA! :(

I do have the original install disk for the OS, but I'd rather not go there. I doubt it's bootable anyway.
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The think I hate the most about Windows 10 is that when I shut my notebook down, it never really shuts down. Pain in the ass.
 
<alt>doxygen said:
Just an update : Tried everything I could think of but nothing worked. I had the original distro of Win 10 that I got when I put this machine together, and that allowed me to boot and try patching and repairing in a non-destructive way. No joy. I did manage to get into DOS and move some things that I didn't want to lose to other drives, but I did have to reinstall Win 10 and then the updates/patches. Now I'm going through reinstalling, re-registering, etc. all of the applications and 3rd party ware that I had which required being put in c:\program files xx, or somewhere else that got wiped (that stuff you generally can't save by "copying"). Going smoothly so far, but I've got a long way to go.

One thing that annoyed me... I thought when Windows did updates it created restore points for you(?). I had NONE. That distro disk would have allowed me to go back if any restore point existed.

Oh, well. I should have it usable sometime tomorrow, but I'll probably be finding bits and pieces that I haven't restored yet for some time.

Thanks!
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Sorry to hear this happened to you. Its a good thing I never upgraded to Win10 after seeing people with all these problems. Win8 works fine for me as a gaming machine and Im sticking with it.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
How does one do that without a connection? Oh...I get it, go old school! Imagination or that old penthouse stash!
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Wait until the weather girl gives her forecast and just pause the TV.
 
Slyfox696 said:
This is one of the drawbacks to Windows and their insistence on putting everything on one partition. I recommend partitioning your drive where all system files exist in one place (your C:\ drive) and everything else sits on a different partition (for example, a D:\ drive). That way if you have to reinstall Windows, your files should be untouched, as well (possibly) as your software programs. Also, instead of doing a DOS move of your files, look into Knoppix live CD. So easy for transferring files.

Also, while it's not helpful now, in the future when trying to diagnose problems where you have a blank screen, disconnect one of your monitors. I know it sounds silly, but it's helped me on a few different occasions. Furthermore, once you get your Windows installed initially, just download a current .iso file from Windows and burn to a DVD using ImgBurn. That way if this happens again, you can just restore to a newer image of Windows without having to do as many updates.

As far as the problem you had, you should be able to use any bootable Windows 10 disc (for example, the .iso I mentioned earlier) to do some repairs on your machine. However, it is always a good idea to have a system repair disc for your system.
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Good advice.

I didn't have an iso, and that's my bad. I have one for my work machine, and I do regular backups of my work areas.

This machine is almost back to "full operation". I did have most things archived on different drives, so restoration was really just a matter of reinstalling some stuff that forces you to place the programs in \Program Files or Program Files (x86). Then I had to get a few license keys from mfgs and run / install those for some reinstalled stuff.

I'd say this whole thing cost me about 5 hours, which is DAYS less than I expected.:peace
 
PoS said:
Sorry to hear this happened to you. Its a good thing I never upgraded to Win10 after seeing people with all these problems. Win8 works fine for me as a gaming machine and Im sticking with it.
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Yeah, I was happy (relatively) with Windows 7, and that's what my other machine has. This has 10 because it's one I built about a year ago, and some of the vendors who's products I use are starting to move away from supporting 7 when they do updates. The do it, but the 10 stuff usually comes out first.
 
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