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Ivy League cancels fall sports

Mongidig said:
This is significant because it's the first of many cancellations unfortunately. Many schools are cutting athletic programs. This is the first domino.
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several weeks ago, Brown University cut several sports. I know because the former captain of the Brown Squash team was someone I coached throughout her HS career. Stanford also cut its women's squash team (for Title IX purposes, they only had women's squash)-again a former captain was a student of mine. They cut the men's volleyball team (which probably produced more All-Americans than any sport at Stanford other than tennis) sailing and several other sports. The sports being cut are often ones that don't have years of alumni-Stanford and Brown's squash teams are less than 20 years old. When Cornell cut its men's squash team in the 70s, alumni-including the head of the Grumman aircraft family, stepped up and funded the program. I doubt Stanford has that sort of support. The problem is-at many universities-be it athletic machines like Ohio State and Stanford, to schools that don't have a big cash producer, the men's football team tends to fund many of the women's sports, and some of the men's sports. With the fall season being cancelled, and with March Madness not happening last year, schools are lacking millions that they use to fund non-revenue sports.
 
Praxas said:
I'm not controlling anything. I'm commenting. Just like you and Turtle and the rest of the COVID complainers have a right to complain about the measures taken to prevent the spread of the virus, I am afforded the SAME RIGHTS to show your complaining is pathetic and whining. Seems you are the one being a bully saying I don't have the right to comment.
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People get to mourn the loss of things that they enjoyed all their lives and which may never return, whether they are sporting events, or gaming conventions, or movie theaters without being called "COVID deniers". And because some people are making themselves vulnerable and saying where they are emotionally, you use that as an opportunity to try and attack them and wound them emotionally. You are being a bully and dressing up your bullying with schoolmarmish self-righteousness to try and exercise some power over a situation that everyone is equally miserable and powerless to control. You are adding nothing to the discussion. You are not keeping anyone safe. You are being a bully. I do not know why, and I shall not attempt to psychoanalyze you. But wherever you are, perhaps it would do to step away from the cesspool that is the internet if only for a moment and spend some time with your loved ones even it is only on the telephone. It will put you in a healthier place, if just for a little while.
 
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Praxas said:
I'm not controlling anything. I'm commenting. Just like you and Turtle and the rest of the COVID complainers have a right to complain about the measures taken to prevent the spread of the virus, I am afforded the SAME RIGHTS to show your complaining is pathetic and whining. Seems you are the one being a bully saying I don't have the right to comment and to STOP IT. Funny I never said you or any others don't have the right to complain but you tell me to STOP IT. Seems you are the one trying to control the speech here.
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wrong, I didn't make any comment about COVID being a hoax etc. I believe it exists, I believe it is nasty, but I also believe many people are happy at the disruption it caused society and the economy because they hate Trump more than they worry about the damage done by this epidemic. But that has nothing to do with this thread. I placed my post in the SPORTS forum, rather than the COVID forum because it is about a leading athletic conference cancelling its season. You decided to use this thread to rant about Trump in a thread that has nothing to do with that topic.
 
Ikari said:
So what, like Yale and Harvard aren't going to play? Oh the humanity.

lol
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That sounds like some sort of bitterness to me. But you miss the point. The point is-this might be the start of most colleges scrapping the entire fall sports schedule. Meaning a huge loss of revenues leading to massive cuts in athletics for students in sports that don't draw big bucks for the colleges.. Having been a varsity coach at an Ivy university, I can tell you that the revenue sports (football at most of the schools, Hockey at Several such as Yale, Harvard and Cornell) and Basketball (Penn and Princeton especially) are used to fund almost all the women's sports and a bunch of the non-revenue sports for men.
 
Felis Leo said:
People get to mourn the loss of things that they enjoyed all their lives and which may never return, whether they are sporting events, or gaming conventions, or movie theaters without being called "COVID deniers". And because some people are making themselves vulnerable and saying where they are emotionally, you use that as an opportunity to try and attack them and wound them emotionally. You are being a bully and dressing up your bullying with schoolmarmish self-righteousness to try and exercise some power over a situation that everyone is equally miserable and powerless to control. You are adding nothing to the discussion. You are not keeping anyone safe. You are being a bully. I do not know why, and I shall not attempt to psychoanalyze you. But wherever you are, perhaps it would do to step away from the cesspool that is the internet if only for a moment and spend some time with your loved ones even it is only on the telephone. It will put you in a healthier place, if just for a little while.
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LOL so me exercising my free speech by making comments is "bullying" but you telling me to "STOP IT" is what? :lamo

sorry but you don't get a "safe space" for complaining about the measures taken to minimize the spread of a the virus. If you don't want anyone commenting against your complaining, I suggest you grab tyour fellow cohearts in complaining to PMing if you don't want me to comment about your complaining. Nuff said. YOU are the one trying to prevent free speech.
 
TurtleDude said:
wrong, I didn't make any comment about COVID being a hoax etc. I believe it exists, I believe it is nasty, but I also believe many people are happy at the disruption it caused society and the economy because they hate Trump more than they worry about the damage done by this epidemic. But that has nothing to do with this thread. I placed my post in the SPORTS forum, rather than the COVID forum because it is about a leading athletic conference cancelling its season. You decided to use this thread to rant about Trump in a thread that has nothing to do with that topic.
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Here's a hint, NO ONE is happy about the disruption. You spread the lies that measures taken to minimize the spread of the virus are to stop Trump's re-election. Stop the bull****, there is a reason why Europe is flattening the curve and we are expanding it. You decided to whine and cry about sports and you got butt hurt when someone dared **** on your whining parade. Too bad. You don't get a safe space here for your complaining without others commenting on it. If you want that I suggest you take your therapy session of complaining to PMs where you have a safe space to hide from the big bad people who dare disagree with you.

It is funny how so many Trump supporters are proving they are snowflakes.
 
Praxas said:
Here's a hint, NO ONE is happy about the disruption. You spread the lies that measures taken to minimize the spread of the virus are to stop Trump's re-election. Stop the bull****, there is a reason why Europe is flattening the curve and we are expanding it. You decided to whine and cry about sports and you got butt hurt when someone dared **** on your whining parade. Too bad. You don't get a safe space here for your complaining without others commenting on it. If you want that I suggest you take your therapy session of complaining to PMs where you have a safe space to hide from the big bad people who dare disagree with you.

It is funny how so many Trump supporters are proving they are snowflakes.
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you cannot help trying to disrupt this thread with your seething Trump hate. This had nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the brain dead idiot you dems are pushing to be president, nor your boiling butt hurt over Trump winning the last election
 
TurtleDude said:
you cannot help trying to disrupt this thread with your seething Trump hate. This had nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with the brain dead idiot you dems are pushing to be president, nor your boiling butt hurt over Trump winning the last election
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Sure it does have to do with trump he’s the one causing the prolonging of this virus by not wearing a ****ing mask and encouraging his retarded supporters to do the same. Hence why many things have to be cancelled because unlike Europe we are increasing our cases of covid.
 
Praxas said:
Sure it does have to do with trump he’s the one causing the prolonging of this virus by not wearing a ****ing mask and encouraging his retarded supporters to do the same. Hence why many things have to be cancelled because unlike Europe we are increasing our cases of covid.
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Stop the attempted hijacking of this thread please. Care to contribute your opinions on the sports likely to be affected in the fall?
 
TurtleDude said:
The first division 1 college conference to do so. This is a letter from the Yale Athletic Director Today: Dear Bulldog Nation:
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I was very sad to hear this earlier today, TD. I immediately thought of our resident Yale graduate. And Stanford. Universities with huge endowments compare to state schools, as I’m sure you know, so $$$ aren’t the problem. Covid is.

These are the people to watch going forward into what is very clearly still the unknown. I meant it when I said we’re in a new twilight zine, with no new normal yet, and no way back to the old one.

I see your state went to masks today. I went to a local gas station here today and was the only customer wearing a mask. I felt for the employees wearing a mask. I live in Trump Illinois.
 
No football, no World Series, it's going to be a weird fall and winter. Nothing will be normal this year.

What a messed up beginning to the decade.
 
TurtleDude said:
That sounds like some sort of bitterness to me. But you miss the point. The point is-this might be the start of most colleges scrapping the entire fall sports schedule. Meaning a huge loss of revenues leading to massive cuts in athletics for students in sports that don't draw big bucks for the colleges.. Having been a varsity coach at an Ivy university, I can tell you that the revenue sports (football at most of the schools, Hockey at Several such as Yale, Harvard and Cornell) and Basketball (Penn and Princeton especially) are used to fund almost all the women's sports and a bunch of the non-revenue sports for men.
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Well I guess maybe they'll have to take some real classes then, yeah?
 
Stanford has just cut some sports. Ohio St and UNC canceled practices (bunch of players tested positive).


It's the older coaches. Just watch what happens with the older coaches. That's the MAJOR risk.
 
TurtleDude said:
The first division 1 college conference to do so. This is a letter from the Yale Athletic Director Today
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I think the only thing to say here is this is another example of the new world we live in: That's sucks, but good.
 
Ikari said:
Well I guess maybe they'll have to take some real classes then, yeah?
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In my experience, I wonder what you are talking about. The captain of the squash team my Junior year, David Schatz, graduated with a BS/MS 4.0 average-earned a Rhodes Scholarship and is a professor of medicine at Yale The captain of the football team my senior year, Kevin Czinger-Was voted the Ivy League's defensive player of the last 50 years. He was Summa cum Laude, phi beta kappa and is a leading developer of green energy and 3D printed cars. He also attended Yale Law, and was an officer in the USMC. Captain of the soccer team my senior year, Shannon O'Brien, was the losing gubernatorial candidate to Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. The Captain of the tennis team, my sophomore year (IIRC) Geoff Tabin, was phi beta kappa and earned a Marshall Scholarship. The captain of the lacrosse team, two years behind me, was phi beta kappa and the top ranked engineering student in his class. The captain of the CC team-Geoffrey Means, was an all-American, and ended up being part of the Oklahoma Bombing prosecution team. He ultimately became the president of Northern Ky University and now, IIRC, Ball State University. He was magna cum laude.

The top athletes in Ivy schools are often top students as well.
 
TurtleDude said:
In my experience, I wonder what you are talking about. The captain of the squash team my Junior year, David Schatz, graduated with a BS/MS 4.0 average-earned a Rhodes Scholarship and is a professor of medicine at Yale The captain of the football team my senior year, Kevin Czinger-Was voted the Ivy League's defensive player of the last 50 years. He was Summa cum Laude, phi beta kappa and is a leading developer of green energy and 3D printed cars. He also attended Yale Law, and was an officer in the USMC. Captain of the soccer team my senior year, Shannon O'Brien, was the losing gubernatorial candidate to Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. The Captain of the tennis team, my sophomore year (IIRC) Geoff Tabin, was phi beta kappa and earned a Marshall Scholarship. The captain of the lacrosse team, two years behind me, was phi beta kappa and the top ranked engineering student in his class. The captain of the CC team-Geoffrey Means, was an all-American, and ended up being part of the Oklahoma Bombing prosecution team. He ultimately became the president of Northern Ky University and now, IIRC, Ball State University. He was magna cum laude.

The top athletes in Ivy schools are often top students as well.
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Well, I won't even get you started on the rowing team. ;)
 
Without fans in the stands, a lot of schools would lose too much money going ahead with football.
 
My daughter is waiting for a similar letter. Supposed to start training Aug. 4 with all sorts of restrictions and adjustments but who knows, might be pushed to the spring. Low D1, Harford, SUNY Albany, Binghamton, Stony Brook, Delaware...
 
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