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NFL Playoffs

SenorXm/Sirius said:
No, they wouldn't have. Well, some might, but most would say overall, for the last 2 years Mahomes is the best in the game right now.
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Absolutely.

But hey, you know why Higgins86 is resisting the truth, right? He is a Patriots fan. Anything one might say against Saint Thomas Brady is heresy for him. So the simple idea that Mahomes is the best QB in the league right now means that Saint Thomas Brady is not, which despite it being true, profoundly despairs Higgins86, whose team is likely to be second fiddle to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC for the foreseeable future, a position that will be very painful for Patriots fans who got so used to winning.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Absolutely.

But hey, you know why Higgins86 is resisting the truth, right? He is a Patriots fan. Anything one might say against Saint Thomas Brady is heresy for him. So the simple idea that Mahomes is the best QB in the league right now means that Saint Thomas Brady is not, which despite it being true, profoundly despairs Higgins86, whose team is likely to be second fiddle to the Kansas City Chiefs in the AFC for the foreseeable future, a position that will be very painful for Patriots fans who got so used to winning.
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I don’t really care to be honest. I’d prefer Kansas to win over Baltimore. All I’m saying is you can’t be considered the best until you win the big one. Regardless of how much you Americans obsess over stats.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
No, they wouldn't have. Well, some might, but most would say overall, for the last 2 years Mahomes is the best in the game right now.
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Plenty of people would have. He’s been the leading candidate for MVP all season.
 
ecofarm said:
I wanted Tannehill but couldn't push that even once this week. KC will be more fun.
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Yeah, KC and SF are the two best teams. My GB pick is fading fast.
 
Higgins86 said:
I don’t really care to be honest. I’d prefer Kansas to win over Baltimore. All I’m saying is you can’t be considered the best until you win the big one. Regardless of how much you Americans obsess over stats.
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Funny that you say so, if you are British and a soccer fan like your avatar picture indicates. Isn't Messi considered to be the best one, despite never having won the big one (which is not the Champions League, but rather, the FIFA World Cup)? In the history of soccer there are other greats who were considered to be the best players of their time, like George Best, Johan Cruyff, Alfredo di Stéfano, and others, who never won the big one either, as both soccer and American football are team sports. So, drop the condescending crap about Americans obsessed with stats.

I don’t really care to be honest.
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Punctuation is your friend. The way you said it, you inadvertently betrayed your own intention, LOL. Talk about a Freudian slip!
 
GreatNews2night said:
Funny that you say so, if you are British and a soccer fan like your avatar picture indicates. Isn't Messi considered to be the best one, despite never having won the big one (which is not the Champions League, but rather, the FIFA World Cup)? In the history of soccer there are other greats who were considered to be the best players of their time, like George Best, Johan Cruyff, Alfredo di Stéfano, and others, who never won the big one either, as both soccer and American football are team sports. So, drop the condescending crap about Americans obsessed with stats.
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International tournaments don’t hold much weight as you can’t choose where you’re born.

Also give me Cristiano over Messi.
 
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Higgins86 said:
I don’t really care to be honest. I’d prefer Kansas to win over Baltimore. All I’m saying is you can’t be considered the best until you win the big one. Regardless of how much you Americans obsess over stats.
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You mean Kansas City, which is in Missouri, not Kansas.
 
Higgins86 said:
International tournaments don’t hold much weight as you can’t choose where your born.
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Oh, come on. Messi was born in Argentina; not a second rate soccer country. Being born in the Netherlands, not a great excuse for Cruyff, either. George Best, sure, I'll give you this one, but di Stéfano is a poor example for your argument too, as he had triple citizenship and played internationally for Argentina, Spain, and Colombia (although the latter was at the time ineligible for the World Cup due to a dispute with FIFA), all three no slouches as far as soccer countries go.

And don't give me this crap about international tournaments not holding much weight. The FIFA World Cup is definitely the most important tournament ever for both soccer fans and soccer players, and to say the opposite qualifies as one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here (and that's saying a lot).

I don’t really care to be honest.
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Punctuation is your friend. The way you said it, you inadvertently betrayed your own intention, LOL. Talk about a Freudian slip!
 
GreatNews2night said:
Oh, come on. Messi was born in Argentina; not a second rate soccer country. Being born in the Netherlands, not a great excuse for Cruyff, either. George Best, sure, I'll give you this one, but di Stéfano is a poor example for your argument too, as he had triple citizenship and played internationally for Argentina, Spain, and Colombia (although the latter was at the time ineligible for the World Cup due to a dispute with FIFA), all three no slouches as far as soccer countries go.

And don't give me this crap about international tournaments not holding much weight. The FIFA World Cup is definitely the most important tournament ever for both soccer fans and soccer players, and to say the opposite qualifies as one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read here (and that's saying a lot).



Punctuation is your friend. The way you said it, you inadvertently betrayed your own intention, LOL. Talk about a Freudian slip!
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Truly depends on who you ask. Most European football fans put more weight into the Champions league these days. If you want to debate about soccer though feel free to jump into the Prem thread which hasn’t seen a lot of action recently.
 
Casper said:
It is in Both States.
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I alway thought it was in MS, but after research, I see that it is similar to Bristol, VA/TN.
 
lurchadams said:
You mean Kansas City, which is in Missouri, not Kansas.
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I mean it’s nearly 1am here and I watched the last game in the pub all night. You can give me a pass here lol.
 
Higgins86 said:
I mean it’s nearly 1am here and I watched the last game in the pub all night. You can give me a pass here lol.
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Well, bless your heart! I hope you had some bubble and squeak to help you sleep, mate :)
 
lurchadams said:
You mean Kansas City, which is in Missouri, not Kansas.
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Technically Kansas City as a metropolitan area sits on the border and has neighborhoods in both Missouri and Kansas. In that metropolitan area there are, among others, municipalities called Kansas City, Missouri, and Kansas City, Kansas, which although smaller with 150K inhabitants (it's the third largest municipality in the area, behind Kansas City, Missouri, and Overland Park, Kansas) versus the much bigger Kansas City, Missouri (500K), does exist.

Kansas City, Kansas - Wikipedia
 
Higgins86 said:
I mean it’s nearly 1am here and I watched the last game in the pub all night. You can give me a pass here lol.
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Sweet dreams, mate!
 
Higgins86 said:
Truly depends on who you ask. Most European football fans put more weight into the Champions league these days. If you want to debate about soccer though feel free to jump into the Prem thread which hasn’t seen a lot of action recently.
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That's preposterous. I'm a dual citizen of the United States and of one of the leading countries of the European Union, I lived in two European countries, I was there during FIFA World Cups multiple times both watching from large screens in plazas and attending the games in person, as well as during Champions League finals, and there is just NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER in the excitement and national fervor triggered by the FIFA World Cup and the Champions League. Maybe the Brits may feel differently, but it is DEFINITELY not the case on the continent.

To pretend that in soccer international competitions are not important (by the way, the Champions League is an international competition - I think you meant national team competitions) is, again, one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read here. Don't forget the UEFA Euro either.

About the Prem thread, thanks, but not at this time.
 
Higgins86 said:
All I’m saying is you can’t be considered the best until you win the big one.
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Nope.. Dan Marino was definitely 1 of the greatest QB's in the history of the NFL.. He was GREAT.. He never won a SB... Many baseball fans say Ted Williams was 1 of the greatest baseball players in the history of the game, he never was on a winning WS team.

In teams sports you can NOT label individual greatness on 'winning the big one'.

I'd take Dan Marino over Eli Manning every single time, 1 won zero SB's, 1 won 2.. I'd take the guy with 0 SB's..
 
GreatNews2night said:
Technically Kansas City as a metropolitan area sits on the border and has neighborhoods in both Missouri and Kansas. In that metropolitan area there are, among others, municipalities called Kansas City, Missouri, and Kansas City, Kansas, which although smaller with 150K inhabitants (it's the third largest municipality in the area, behind Kansas City, Missouri, and Overland Park, Kansas) versus the much bigger Kansas City, Missouri (500K), does exist.

Kansas City, Kansas - Wikipedia
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Not related to the original post to which I replied. In any event:

Arrowhead Stadium - Wikipedia

Arrowhead Stadium is an American football stadium in Kansas City, Missouri, United States. It primarily serves as the home venue of the Kansas City Chiefs of the National Football League (NFL).
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20-0.. And I'm pretty sure GB's offense isn't nearly as explosive as KC's.. So I fear we may not see a SB 1 match-up.
 
GreatNews2night said:
That's preposterous. I'm a dual citizen of the United States and of one of the leading countries of the European Union, I lived in two European countries, I was there during FIFA World Cups multiple times both watching from large screens in plazas and attending the games in person, as well as during Champions League finals, and there is just NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER in the excitement and national fervor triggered by the FIFA World Cup and the Champions League. Maybe the Brits may feel differently, but it is DEFINITELY not the case on the continent.

To pretend that in soccer international competitions are not important (by the way, the Champions League is an international competition - I think you meant national team competitions) is, again, one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever read here. Don't forget the UEFA Euro either.

About the Prem thread, thanks, but not at this time.
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I’m not talking about from a fans perspective I’m talking about how players are judged and nowadays most modern footballers are the top see the champions league as the pinnacle of club football. World Cup is every 4 years and only a small handful of players get a chance to win it. It’s just not comparable especially to a SB.
 
lurchadams said:
Wrong. There is a Kansas City Kansas but the NFL team, Kansas City, Chiefs's home is K.S. Missouri.
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I'm sure everybody in the metropolitan area, regardless of where their specific municipality seats, roots for the Chiefs. Same thing with the Carolina Panthers: they are in Charlotte, NC, a few miles from the border with South Carolina (certain Charlotte southern neighborhoods are in South Carolina) but fans from both states root for the team and consider the team to represent both states. I'm quite sure that Kansas City, Kansas residents believe that the Chiefs represent their city too, regardless of where the stadium and the headquarters are located. This is the case for many other NFL teams. Look for example at the NEW YORK Giants and the NEW YORK Jets. Neither one is in New York City. They are in New Jersey. The New England Patriots are the team of multiple New England states and are more strongly associated with Boston, but their stadium is actually relatively far from Boston. And so on and so forth.
 
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