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Major League Baseball 2020

Mets' Marcus Stroman Says 2020 MLB Season 'Not Looking Promising'

The 2020 MLB season appears to be on life support.

New York Mets starting pitcher Marcus Stroman tweeted Tuesday that "this season is not looking promising," calling further into question whether the league's owners and players will be able to agree to a salary structure given the unique circumstances caused by the COVID-19 pandemic:


Marcus Stroman
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This season is not looking promising. Keeping the mind and body ready regardless. Time to dive into some life-after-baseball projects. Hope everyone is staying safe and healthy. Brighter times remain ahead!

At issue between the two sides is whether the payers will take an additional pay cut, following the one they took in March that prorated their salaries based on games played. To this point, they have been adamant they would not agree to further cuts, with the owners originally proposing a 50-50 revenue share. The players view that as a salary cap, however, and have resisted such overtures.

The owners have countered that the loss from a shortened season, likely without fans in the stands for its duration, would represent a loss of revenue they alone can't absorb.

The players, however, feel that they've already taken a pay cut this year and that the owners alone reap the benefits of increased profits in good years given the structuring of the collective bargaining agreement, so they should absorb the hit in a bad year.


Jon Heyman
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Regarding MLB plan to seek a 50-50 revenue split, Scott Boras, noting franchise value increases and previous profits (he mentioned a $476M gain in ‘19 for Braves, the one team owned by a public company), said on @JoeandEvan “You don’t privatize the gains and socialize the losses”

Players are also concerned that teams may look to cut their losses next offseason, affecting free agency and arbitration.

Ken Rosenthal and Evan Drellich of The Athletic reported Sunday that the league is eschewing the 50-50 revenue-split proposal and on Tuesday had "plans to offer an alternative proposal, leaving the union with a potential choice: to hold the league to the prorated salaries the two sides negotiated in March, or accommodate the owners' desire for a second, possibly percentage-based cut in some other fashion."

Stroman, at least, doesn't feel optimistic the two sides will bridge the gap separating them. If they don't, the season will be cancelled, a possibility baseball fans should be bracing for at this point.

Mets''' Marcus Stroman Says 2020 MLB Season '''Not Looking Promising''' | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights
 
Bucky said:
Zero. Players are refusing to take pay cuts and will not accept a no-spitting policy.
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I wish this was as ridiculous as it sounds but it’s not. And, I guess, I’m glad to see those assholes cut off their noses to spite their face.
 
I wonder if baseball players even realize that no one misses their boring sport.
 
calamity said:
Around 2009, when I was with another company, we all were given a choice. Paycut or layoff. I was amazed at the number who picked "B."
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One of Scherzer's remarks was a subtle threat. Something along the line of how the discussion would be changed if certain documents were made public.:eek:
 
Jack Hays said:
It is far and away my favorite sport.
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I don't even notice they aren't playing. Now, Basketball? Hell, I already know what I would be doing tonight if the playoffs were on: watching game 6 or 7 of either the Eastern or Western conference finals.
 
calamity said:
I don't even notice they aren't playing. Now, Basketball? Hell, I already know what I would be doing tonight if the playoffs were on: watching game 6 or 7 of either the Eastern or Western conference finals.
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I like college basketball, especially the NCAA tournaments, both men's and women's. At the pro level I'm more of just a Pacers fan than an NBA fan.
 
Jack Hays said:
I like college basketball, especially the NCAA tournaments, both men's and women's. At the pro level I'm more of just a Pacers fan than an NBA fan.
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I like all the basketball, but I prefer seeing the games at their highest level the most. Those would be the NBA conf finals and finals and, of course, the elite 8 on through the NCAA championship game.

Sweet 16 Thurs and Fri isn't half bad either, especially when I am traveling on business.
 
Baseball should just hang it up this year. Although a WS victory will be legit, i don't think games without fans makes sense. I don't think I would watch on TV.




(Ok, I'll watch, but still)
 
Some MLB owners 'perfectly willing' to cancel 2020 season to save money, per report

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According to ESPN's Buster Olney, some MLB owners are "perfectly willing" to go with the nuclear option and cancel the 2020 season should players not agree to additional pay cuts. From Olney:

Sources say there is a group of owners perfectly willing to shut down the season, to slash payroll costs and reduce losses, and the disparate views among the 30 teams have been reflected in the decisions to fire and furlough. The Pirates' Bob Nutting used the shutdown as an avenue to suspend team contributions to employee 401K plans -- savings best measured monthly in the tens of thousands of dollars rather than the millions that would actually be difference-making for a franchise probably worth at least $1 billion. The Oakland Athletics' John Fisher decided to eliminate the $400 weekly salaries of minor leaguers, which might save the franchise about the amount of the team's unpaid stadium rental bill. On the other hand, clubs such as the Tigers, Padres and Royals demonstrated greater humanity, with the Royals' John Sherman deciding to pay his minor leaguers.

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Some MLB owners 'perfectly willing' to cancel 2020 season to save money, per report - CBSSports.com
 
I'm not sure what is going to happen, I'm guessing most of what we are hearing now is hot air and posturing by both sides.

BUT if this is as serious as it sounds, and there isn't a season BOTH sides are going to see financial hardships in the future(next 5 years or so) like they never seen before. TV contracts and attendance will take HUGE hits, I wouldn't doubt the 'worth' of each franchise will be cut in half, that's if they can even get 'buyers' for any franchise in the next 5 years or so.

And if the owner take huge hits like I described the players can kiss 30 mil a year contracts good-bye for, well, ever...

So for both sides would be smart to bite the bullet this year, because if they don't in the longer run they will lose A LOT more.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I'm not sure what is going to happen, I'm guessing most of what we are hearing now is hot air and posturing by both sides.

BUT if this is as serious as it sounds, and there isn't a season BOTH sides are going to see financial hardships in the future(next 5 years or so) like they never seen before. TV contracts and attendance will take HUGE hits, I wouldn't doubt the 'worth' of each franchise will be cut in half, that's if they can even get 'buyers' for any franchise in the next 5 years or so.

And if the owner take huge hits like I described the players can kiss 30 mil a year contracts good-bye for, well, ever...

So for both sides would be smart to bite the bullet this year, because if they don't in the longer run they will lose A LOT more.
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If MLB can't agree to play this year because of money, when 40 million people are unemployed and many are losing their businesses, its going to cost them a lot of fans.
 
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