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Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

LOL!

Aren't you just the funniest person in the world!? Seriously, the amount of cleverness it takes to drop into a thread about wrestling and call it "fake" is simply beyond the creativity of most people who never watch wrestling. Great post, absolutely stunning in its cleverness. Brilliant!

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Dusty Rhodes
Bruno Sammartino
Bob Backlund

Just naming a few who put wrestling on the map and made it a sport. Wrestling today is nothing but a overrated video game. It's fake and it will always be. The only thing I'll give credit is the large paychecks handed out.
 
Dusty Rhodes
Bruno Sammartino
Bob Backlund

Just naming a few who put wrestling on the map and made it a sport.
Wrestling, as we're discussing, has never been a sport. All of those guys worked in scripted entertainment.

Wrestling today is nothing but a overrated video game. It's fake and it will always be.
As opposed to nearly every other show on television? How come nobody criticizes Walking Dead or Family Guy as being fake?

Your comment is absurd.
 
Has anybody else seen the 2 events and what was your view on the Wrestemania weekend?

I watched both. The NXT show was great. The worst match was 3.5 stars or so. The main event, Dream/Riddle and the tag match where easily 4 + stars. Triple H understands the concept of simple storytelling. And I felt that there was a real effort made to really tell stories with the matches. Dream/Riddle especially, where Riddle kept destroying Dream but couldn't finish him, got progressively more frustrated, and then caught in a moment of carelessness was great.

WM has been too long for awhile now, and it is not getting better. Outside of the women's title match and BDB/Kofi, everything was mediocre to just plain bad. And after the cathartic Kofi win, you had the Mysterio squash(cuz he was hurt so couldn't really do a match), the Reigns/McIntyre match which was slow and kinda boring, the 25 minute HHH/Dave match where both ran out of gas after 10 minutes and just sucked the energy out of the building, the Angle retirement match that no one wanted to end that way, even if it is the traditional right ending(and I approve of going out on your back, but do that right before the Kofi win), the 5 minute Balor/Lashley match that did neither of them any favors, and by the time the women's match came along, 7 hours after the start of the show, no one had any energy left.

I have high hopes that when Vince finally lets Triple H take over, things will improve, but until then, this is just how WM is going to be, too long, and not real good. Too much of getting every one on the card, not enough giving the fans reasons to walk away happy.
 
There are A LOT of adult professional wrestling fans who think that it is not scripted. I’m not saying you, or anyone on here are among them, but there are many of them.

I have never met one person who thinks it is not scripted. There are I am sure a few, but it is pretty rare.
 
Oh I don’t deny for one second that pro wrestlers are physically taking real hits and getting pounded. They absolutely are. But scripting and choreography take away from its legitimacy, just a little.

Yeah, just like they take away from movies....
 
Dusty Rhodes
Bruno Sammartino
Bob Backlund

Just naming a few who put wrestling on the map and made it a sport. Wrestling today is nothing but a overrated video game. It's fake and it will always be. The only thing I'll give credit is the large paychecks handed out.

Ummmm...those guys worked scripted matches and where not really hurting each other too.
 
Ummmm...those guys worked scripted matches and where not really hurting each other too.

Doesn't matter...
Back then it's more tolerant. Today they are playing with each however the women wrestlers are fun to watch.
 
The fact that people talk about professional wrestling like it is an actual sport where the “competitors” earn their results is hilarious.

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There is a Game of Thrones thread in the entertainment section. Those people talk about it like it is actually real. Should someone troll that thread and say, Game of Thrones is a scripted TV show?

As opposed to the oversaturation of "reality" tv shows which exist? Or talking about who died on The Walking Dead this week?

What I find is hilarious are the ignorant people who think wrestling fans do not understand pro wrestling is scripted, yet will wax on and on about their favorite TV shows and movies, as if it is a completely different art medium.

I have concluded that people who say wrestling is fake anytime people are talking about pro wrestling are in two camps:

(1) They like sports but not pro wrestling because of a "purity" argument

OR

(2) They do not like sports period and are just adverse to this type of entertainment.

Nothing can be done about camp 2 imo.

My message to people in camp 1 is this: WWE, MMA, Boxing, etc are selling the same thing: entertainment. People watch it because it is entertaining.

It is not possible for WWE to be real. That just isn't remotely possible. Greco-Roman wrestling would not be popular. Nobody would watch that on a weekly basis. It is something only popular during the Olympics like sprinting or weight lifting. Watching men or women grappling for 3 hours would be the most boring thing to watch on TV.

Is MMA scripted? Probably not however an MMA main event can end in 20-45 seconds. Is that entertaining? With WWE you are at least guaranteed a full match.

There are A LOT of adult professional wrestling fans who think that it is not scripted. I’m not saying you, or anyone on here are among them, but there are many of them.

Name 1. That is complete BS.

I have never met one person who thinks it is not scripted. There are I am sure a few, but it is pretty rare.

It is a red herring argument. The Man just made that up. I do not know 1 person that thinks wrestling is "real."

Again, it is more likely you will find an adult in the world that thinks Games of Thrones is real than an adult that thinks pro wrestling is real.
 
You forgot Too Fake ?

You have people betting money on who will take some scripted iron throne on a TV show Game of Thrones. Do those people realize that isn't real?
 
You are making this up. Try moving out of the 1970s and into current day. Most, if not all, wrestling fans who do not suffer from a serious mental disability knows it is scripted. The WWE themselves acknowledge that from time to time.

It is obvious you do not know of which you speak. I suggest you bow out.

Its obvious its scripted. No one who is real could act that bad.
 
I watched both. The NXT show was great. The worst match was 3.5 stars or so. The main event, Dream/Riddle and the tag match where easily 4 + stars. Triple H understands the concept of simple storytelling. And I felt that there was a real effort made to really tell stories with the matches. Dream/Riddle especially, where Riddle kept destroying Dream but couldn't finish him, got progressively more frustrated, and then caught in a moment of carelessness was great.

WM has been too long for awhile now, and it is not getting better. Outside of the women's title match and BDB/Kofi, everything was mediocre to just plain bad. And after the cathartic Kofi win, you had the Mysterio squash(cuz he was hurt so couldn't really do a match), the Reigns/McIntyre match which was slow and kinda boring, the 25 minute HHH/Dave match where both ran out of gas after 10 minutes and just sucked the energy out of the building, the Angle retirement match that no one wanted to end that way, even if it is the traditional right ending(and I approve of going out on your back, but do that right before the Kofi win), the 5 minute Balor/Lashley match that did neither of them any favors, and by the time the women's match came along, 7 hours after the start of the show, no one had any energy left.

I have high hopes that when Vince finally lets Triple H take over, things will improve, but until then, this is just how WM is going to be, too long, and not real good. Too much of getting every one on the card, not enough giving the fans reasons to walk away happy.

The WWE hasn't been the same since Stone Cold, Rocky and Mankind left. The Attitude Era was the golden era for WWE.

Bautista, Randy Orton, John Cena, The Shield, none of these wrestlers bring the same juice as the wrestlers of the attitude era.

WWE needs competition. I am hoping All Elite Wrestling can be a true competitor to WWE.
 
It is sport entertainment. Their performances are absolutely equal to many an athlete, even if it is trained and already decided beforehand.

What I find is hilarious are the ignorant people who think wrestling fans do not understand pro wrestling is scripted, yet will wax on and on about their favorite TV shows and movies, as if it is a completely different art medium.

You know, some people like to watch the ballet. And some people like to watch soap operas. Professional wrestling is the only form of entertainment that lets you do both.
 
The WWE hasn't been the same since Stone Cold, Rocky and Mankind left. The Attitude Era was the golden era for WWE.

Bautista, Randy Orton, John Cena, The Shield, none of these wrestlers bring the same juice as the wrestlers of the attitude era.

WWE needs competition. I am hoping All Elite Wrestling can be a true competitor to WWE.

Not going to happen, there is a complete overload on stars on WWE, no competitor can have such a line up. Just look at the new people coming up through NXT. Black, Ricochet, Nakamura came from there, Lars Sullivan and there are many more up and coming competitors getting groomed in NXT.

Does it suck that the Lunatic Fringe is leaving, hell yes. But the WWE will get over that quite easily. Velveteen Dream, Johnny Wrestling, the Viking Experience aka the war raiders, Tucker and this guy from NXT UK, he is like the human canon ball



A bit more polished and he is ready for the big boys. When he jumps and does that kick that Finn Balor does, but then almost 50 percent heavier than Balor is which is mightily impressive IMO.

Also, Harper is on his way back, Bray Wyatt is supposedly just ready to come back.
 
Not going to happen, there is a complete overload on stars on WWE, no competitor can have such a line up. Just look at the new people coming up through NXT. Black, Ricochet, Nakamura came from there, Lars Sullivan and there are many more up and coming competitors getting groomed in NXT.

Does it suck that the Lunatic Fringe is leaving, hell yes. But the WWE will get over that quite easily. Velveteen Dream, Johnny Wrestling, the Viking Experience aka the war raiders, Tucker and this guy from NXT UK, he is like the human canon ball



A bit more polished and he is ready for the big boys. When he jumps and does that kick that Finn Balor does, but then almost 50 percent heavier than Balor is which is mightily impressive IMO.

Also, Harper is on his way back, Bray Wyatt is supposedly just ready to come back.


Have you seen the talent that AEW has now?

Shahid Khan, the head of AEW has double the net worth of Vince McMahon.

They have real star power: Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes, and Jim Ross.

If they can land CM Punk, that would be epic.
 
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There is a Game of Thrones thread in the entertainment section. Those people talk about it like it is actually real. Should someone troll that thread and say, Game of Thrones is a scripted TV show?



I have concluded that people who say wrestling is fake anytime people are talking about pro wrestling are in two camps:

(1) They like sports but not pro wrestling because of a "purity" argument

OR

(2) They do not like sports period and are just adverse to this type of entertainment.

Nothing can be done about camp 2 imo.

My message to people in camp 1 is this: WWE, MMA, Boxing, etc are selling the same thing: entertainment. People watch it because it is entertaining.

It is not possible for WWE to be real. That just isn't remotely possible. Greco-Roman wrestling would not be popular. Nobody would watch that on a weekly basis. It is something only popular during the Olympics like sprinting or weight lifting. Watching men or women grappling for 3 hours would be the most boring thing to watch on TV.

Is MMA scripted? Probably not however an MMA main event can end in 20-45 seconds. Is that entertaining? With WWE you are at least guaranteed a full match.



Name 1. That is complete BS.



It is a red herring argument. The Man just made that up. I do not know 1 person that thinks wrestling is "real."

Again, it is more likely you will find an adult in the world that thinks Games of Thrones is real than an adult that thinks pro wrestling is real.

Yes! If I could have guessed one person on this forum who is a professional wrestling fan, Bucky is definitely the one I would have guessed! Lol!
 
Have you seen the talent that AEW has now?

Shahid Khan, the head of AEW has double the net worth of Vince McMahon.

They have real star power: Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, Cody Rhodes, and Jim Ross.

If they can land CM Punk, that would be epic.

Great, have you seen the wall to wall talent that the WWE has? And the wall to wall coverage the WWE has?

Sure AEW has some good wrestlers, but most are former WWE stars. Some popular ones but never really where the big eternal stars. Now if CM Punk goes in at AEW, maybe there is something that makes me watch it. But so far there is nothing that says to me it is must watch TV. And to be honest, with all the stars sometimes, especially Raw is boring as hell but then when it comes to it they have the stars and matches that are effing marvellous.

The only WWE show that I do not watch is 205, just does not interest me that much.

And I couldn't care any less if Shahid Khan has twice as much money was McMahon. He does not have shows on the same level and networks as the WWE has. Sure it will be fun if there are some alternatives for wrestlers but so far all the light is being sucked out of the wrestling universe by WWE. Not that this is a universally good thing. I have been discussing on another forum how much I disagree with the WWE's policy on health care and independent contractors (because they are not, that is a lie), but the WWE for wrestlers is THE place to be. Love it or hate it.
 
Yes! If I could have guessed one person on this forum who is a professional wrestling fan, Bucky is definitely the one I would have guessed! Lol!

I am not sure how serious I can take your opinion when you are named after a female wrestler, Becky Lynch, the man.
 
Great, have you seen the wall to wall talent that the WWE has? And the wall to wall coverage the WWE has?

Sure AEW has some good wrestlers, but most are former WWE stars. Some popular ones but never really where the big eternal stars. Now if CM Punk goes in at AEW, maybe there is something that makes me watch it. But so far there is nothing that says to me it is must watch TV. And to be honest, with all the stars sometimes, especially Raw is boring as hell but then when it comes to it they have the stars and matches that are effing marvellous.

The only WWE show that I do not watch is 205, just does not interest me that much.

And I couldn't care any less if Shahid Khan has twice as much money was McMahon. He does not have shows on the same level and networks as the WWE has. Sure it will be fun if there are some alternatives for wrestlers but so far all the light is being sucked out of the wrestling universe by WWE. Not that this is a universally good thing. I have been discussing on another forum how much I disagree with the WWE's policy on health care and independent contractors (because they are not, that is a lie), but the WWE for wrestlers is THE place to be. Love it or hate it.

AS much as it pains me to say it, but Bucky has a point. You can buy Young Bucks and Bullet Club T Shots at Walmart. Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks are hugely over, from their time at NJPW. In fact, NJPW is surprisingly popular in the states, and they will have a working relationship with AEW. It should also be noted that it looks like AEW will end up on TNT, so there is the network coverage.

Kenny Omega is probably the best wrestler in the world right now. Head and shoulders above everyone in WWE. Cody Rhodes is one of the best minds in the business. If any company is in a position to challenge WWE, it is AEW. If they can finish their TV deal, and put out a quality product, the future us bright for AEW. Now, if McMahon retires soon, and Triple H takes over the company, that could change things. HHH is not one of the best minds in the business, he is the best. NXT, which he runs, is a perfect example of how to get a company over: simple storylines, compelling action, emphasize the talents strengths while hiding their weaknesses.
 
Kenny Omega is probably the best wrestler in the world right now.
A line regularly used for workers not in the WWE, the owner of which changes once the original goes to the WWE.

Meanwhile, when the supposed best wrestler in the world DOES end up going to the WWE, it takes them YEARS to establish themselves as a true star. Off the top of my head, only AJ Styles has defied that description.

The fact is the best wrestler in the world is rarely the best wrestler in the world (for a myriad of reasons). For years and years it is my opinion the true best was John Cena. While I haven't watched wrestling too closely in the last 6 months or so, before I got busy with other things, it was AJ Styles.

The best wrestler in the world is rarely the one most people claim it is, but often is one people tend to take for granted.

Head and shoulders above everyone in WWE.
I have not seen Kenny Omega, so it is possible you are correct. But, given the talent I have seen in WWE, I strongly doubt you are correct.

Cody Rhodes is one of the best minds in the business. If any company is in a position to challenge WWE, it is AEW.
Perhaps. But that is like saying Duke is the best college basketball team in position to challenge the Golden State Warriors.

If they can finish their TV deal, and put out a quality product, the future us bright for AEW.
Weekly television tends to take a lot of the shine off a wrestling product and its workers. Suddenly the things you can get away with on the occasional big show you can no longer do each and every week.

If AEW gets on TV, I think striving to TNA's level would be a worthy goal (over a sustained period, obviously initial interest will be higher than what TNA currently has).

Now, if McMahon retires soon, and Triple H takes over the company, that could change things. HHH is not one of the best minds in the business, he is the best.
No doubt HHH has a great understanding of the business.
 
A line regularly used for workers not in the WWE, the owner of which changes once the original goes to the WWE.

Meanwhile, when the supposed best wrestler in the world DOES end up going to the WWE, it takes them YEARS to establish themselves as a true star. Off the top of my head, only AJ Styles has defied that description.

The fact is the best wrestler in the world is rarely the best wrestler in the world (for a myriad of reasons). For years and years it is my opinion the true best was John Cena. While I haven't watched wrestling too closely in the last 6 months or so, before I got busy with other things, it was AJ Styles.

The best wrestler in the world is rarely the one most people claim it is, but often is one people tend to take for granted.

AJ Styles is great. I have been a fan for many years. He is not now, nor has he ever been, the greatest wrestler in the world. I agree with you that for all his faults, Cena probably was, for several years, the best overall wrestler. Hugely over, capable of great matches despite being limited in what he could or would do.

The problem with your reasoning is that you assume that getting over is entirely on the wrestler. It rarely is. WWE has a longstanding tradition of booking new talent from other organizations poorly. In fact, booking is the biggest problem with WWE. Vince pushes people he likes, whether they can get over or not, while not pushing talent that is over. Some recent examples would include having Bailey and Banks drop the tag title in favor of a comedy team that is not over, and will not be over(despite having far more talent than they are allowed to show), or pushing Lacey Evans(who has a real future and could be great, but is not ready), or pushing Reigns, or the absolute mess that is the tag division.

I have not seen Kenny Omega, so it is possible you are correct. But, given the talent I have seen in WWE, I strongly doubt you are correct.

Kenny Omega is the complete package. Insanely talented in the ring, insanely charismatic, great talker.

Perhaps. But that is like saying Duke is the best college basketball team in position to challenge the Golden State Warriors.

I know exactly nothing about basketball, so I have no clue what you are trying to say there.

Weekly television tends to take a lot of the shine off a wrestling product and its workers. Suddenly the things you can get away with on the occasional big show you can no longer do each and every week.

If AEW gets on TV, I think striving to TNA's level would be a worthy goal.

Almost everyone involved in AEW has time on weekly television. AEW is already over TNA's level. Cody's All In event in Chicago outsold any non WWE event since 1993.
 
Great, have you seen the wall to wall talent that the WWE has? And the wall to wall coverage the WWE has?

Sure AEW has some good wrestlers, but most are former WWE stars. Some popular ones but never really where the big eternal stars. Now if CM Punk goes in at AEW, maybe there is something that makes me watch it. But so far there is nothing that says to me it is must watch TV. And to be honest, with all the stars sometimes, especially Raw is boring as hell but then when it comes to it they have the stars and matches that are effing marvellous.

The only WWE show that I do not watch is 205, just does not interest me that much.

And I couldn't care any less if Shahid Khan has twice as much money was McMahon. He does not have shows on the same level and networks as the WWE has. Sure it will be fun if there are some alternatives for wrestlers but so far all the light is being sucked out of the wrestling universe by WWE. Not that this is a universally good thing. I have been discussing on another forum how much I disagree with the WWE's policy on health care and independent contractors (because they are not, that is a lie), but the WWE for wrestlers is THE place to be. Love it or hate it.

lol.

The wwe doesn't know how to utilize all that talent imo.

despite winning the royal rumble, shinsuke nakamura has been completely marginalized. It is a joke how they are using him.

You want to talk about recycled ideas. For a long while, they had Seth Rollins finisher as the pedigree and they had Kevin Owens using the stone cold stunner as his finisher. Now that's pathetic.

They desperately have tried to prop up Roman Reigns as the face of their company however he has the personality of a rock (no not the rock, a literal rock).

imo the hottest thing the wwe has going for them is Becky Lynch, who competes on both raw and smackdown.... however, I think they literally lucked themselves into Lynch.

Also, it is impossible for the WWE to utilize all their talent. They only have 3 hours on raw, and 2 hours on smackdown and they are dedicating a lot of the time block towards female wrestlers.

IMO the following wrestlers could possibly leave WWE in the next year:

Dolph Ziggler
Shinsuke Nakamura
The Usos
Randy Orton

AEW can offer more money to these wrestlers currently being marginalized.
 
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AJ Styles is great. I have been a fan for many years. He is not now, nor has he ever been, the greatest wrestler in the world.
Not sure we can agree, the man was fantastic on the stick, always entertaining in the ring and incredibly versatile.

I agree with you that for all his faults, Cena probably was, for several years, the best overall wrestler. Hugely over, capable of great matches despite being limited in what he could or would do.
I quibble over the idea he was "limited", for several reasons, but if we agree, we agree.

The problem with your reasoning is that you assume that getting over is entirely on the wrestler. It rarely is.
It almost always is. People accuse promotions of not getting someone over, but promotions just put the pieces into place. It is up to the wrestler to connect with the audience.

WWE has a longstanding tradition of booking new talent from other organizations poorly.
I disagree. The WWE's longstanding policy is to book talent from other organizations in a fashion consistent with the idea the WWE's audience is not familiar with the talent. Certainly there are some examples one could use to make the claim you are (Booker T vs. HHH at WM is a popular one), but when you truly go back and look, the WWE pushes talent that will make them money. In fact, the current trend is to overpromote new talent before relegating them back to the midcard if they, predictably, cannot hang onto the main-event.

In fact, booking is the biggest problem with WWE. Vince pushes people he likes, whether they can get over or not, while not pushing talent that is over.
Vince pushes people he thinks will make money. That's it. People complain about Roman Reigns, but ignore AJ Styles has been given great booking. People complained about Cena winning too much, but never seemed to have a problem with CM Punk's 9 month winning streak debut (or whatever it was). And no one claims Styles and Punk are the kind of guys Vince "likes".

Being limited by post count (and the understanding you understand wrestling), I won't detail the WWE's obvious booking philosophy, except to say it is money driven.

Some recent examples would include having Bailey and Banks drop the tag title in favor of a comedy team that is not over
Tag team wrestling doesn't sell. Hasn't for decades.

and will not be over(despite having far more talent than they are allowed to show), or pushing Lacey Evans(who has a real future and could be great, but is not ready), or pushing Reigns, or the absolute mess that is the tag division.
Reigns makes money. Tag divisions don't. Women's wrestling have only recently shown the ability to draw, thanks to a drastic change in society (and the UFC spearheading the movement).

What Banks and Bailey do in the women's midcard doesn't matter at all. Both have had their shots at the main-event and, unlike Charlotte, have not remained consistently compelling. Honestly, I've never found Bailey that compelling. Banks has a much better character, though rumors are her backstage attitude does her no favors. Lacey Evans? Has she even been on the big stage for six months yet?

Pro wrestling is about making money and the WWE does everything they do to make it. One of the best ways to get over in pro wrestling is simply long term exposure (see Kofi Kingston, or even Miz, for a recent example). But the greats make themselves great.

Undertaker is literally a character who buries dead people. Rollins and Reigns came to the ring in goofy looking tactical gear. Daniel Bryan got over by engaging in couples therapy with Kane. Cena was a white rapper.

The greats get themselves over. And if you're not great, you're not drawing money, so the WWE doesn't care.
 
Part 2
Kenny Omega is the complete package. Insanely talented in the ring, insanely charismatic, great talker.
Again, I haven't seen him so I cannot make any judgments. I just know what the WWE has and the idea anyone is "head and shoulders" better suggests the second coming of Randy Savage. I strongly doubt Omega is that.

I know exactly nothing about basketball, so I have no clue what you are trying to say there.
Saying AEW is in the best position to compete with the WWE is saying something which may technically be true, but realistically is never going to come close to happening.

Almost everyone involved in AEW has time on weekly television.
Oh? In the USA? And how did they do on weekly television? Did they move the ratings needle? Did they draw huge crowds on a weekly basis? Big moneymakers?

I think we both know the answer to that is no.

AEW is already over TNA's level. Cody's All In event in Chicago outsold any non WWE event since 1993.
Yes, but it was a one off. It's not a weekly product. That's what I'm getting at.

Wrestlemania used to do over 1 million PPV buys...but they didn't do it every week. All In certainly did great numbers in attendance. A new television show would start off hot. But after twenty-four months, if they can be on TNA's level, they should be happy. Don't forget, ROH was considered AEW before AEW became a thing.

At this point, the only way the WWE loses its number 1 status would be of their own doing. They simply have too much history, too much tradition, too much money, too much power and too much influence.
 
Almost everyone involved in AEW has time on weekly television. AEW is already over TNA's level. Cody's All In event in Chicago outsold any non WWE event since 1993.

Great, the last WWE NXT take over had 15,697 attendees. Big WWE shows have 3, 4, 5 times as many people coming to watch the show. Wrestlemania this year had over 82 thousand people on their seats.

TNA is not much any more, the most interesting wrestlers (IMO) that they have are often from the Lucha Underground show. Which also has some appeal but not 4 big shows a week, their own television channel and numerous big PPV's every year. Don't get me wrong, I hope AEW goes on to great things but a real threat to the WWE? Not sure about that one.

Now if the old fart McMahon leaves the new generation (read HHH) than the shows might get a lot more interesting.
 
Great, the last WWE NXT take over had 15,697 attendees. Big WWE shows have 3, 4, 5 times as many people coming to watch the show. Wrestlemania this year had over 82 thousand people on their seats.

TNA is not much any more, the most interesting wrestlers (IMO) that they have are often from the Lucha Underground show. Which also has some appeal but not 4 big shows a week, their own television channel and numerous big PPV's every year. Don't get me wrong, I hope AEW goes on to great things but a real threat to the WWE? Not sure about that one.

Now if the old fart McMahon leaves the new generation (read HHH) than the shows might get a lot more interesting.

It seems you are threatened by any form of competition against WWE. WWE was at its best when it was going head-on with WCW.

IMO WWE is in a vulnerable spot. Vince McMahon is getting older and focusing his money and time on the XFL.

I don't think you realize how troubled the WWE is right now. For the past few years, they had a part-time Champion in Brock Lesnar that literally wrestled once a month. They have a lot of talent but not box office talent.

Kofi Kingston as champion? LOL! He is a mid-carder. They are really desperate. I guess Daniel Bryan is injured again?
 
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