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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Old enough to have seen the first Wrestlemania's and to have gone through the Raw/War era and the ECW era. To have seen the first few Undertaker matches to right here and right now. So pretty much old enough to enjoy the show and the theater that that kind of wrestling brings.

    Why? Are people of my age not allowed their entertainment? I would rather watch that fake reality than a lot of actual reality fake shows IMHO.
    I used to watch Portland wrestling ever Saturday (ie the birth place of what became what you came to know as pro wrestling), hell even went to some in person. But I was a kid back then. That was before that crap that you mentioned. It was back when they still cut themselves with razor blades every night. Look up (off of the top of my head) "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Playboy Buddy Rose, Mr. Fuji, Dutch Savage, Jesse the body Ventura they were all wrestling when the Undertaker was not the undertaker yet. He played a half dozen other characters before then.

    Of course you know that it is all fake. I mean you cannot get past the porn level acting and the even worse writing. All in all its all very cheesy.

    What do you get out of it as an adult?
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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Great, have you seen the wall to wall talent that the WWE has? And the wall to wall coverage the WWE has?

    Sure AEW has some good wrestlers, but most are former WWE stars. Some popular ones but never really where the big eternal stars. Now if CM Punk goes in at AEW, maybe there is something that makes me watch it. But so far there is nothing that says to me it is must watch TV. And to be honest, with all the stars sometimes, especially Raw is boring as hell but then when it comes to it they have the stars and matches that are effing marvellous.

    The only WWE show that I do not watch is 205, just does not interest me that much.

    And I couldn't care any less if Shahid Khan has twice as much money was McMahon. He does not have shows on the same level and networks as the WWE has. Sure it will be fun if there are some alternatives for wrestlers but so far all the light is being sucked out of the wrestling universe by WWE. Not that this is a universally good thing. I have been discussing on another forum how much I disagree with the WWE's policy on health care and independent contractors (because they are not, that is a lie), but the WWE for wrestlers is THE place to be. Love it or hate it.
    I am not sure you saw AEW's PPV Full Gear, but the Unsanctioned, Lights Out Match between Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) and Kenny Omega was one of the most insane matches ever.

    After the barbed wire assault left Moxley bleeding from the side of his face, Omega grabbed a board covered with mousetraps. The plan backfired as Omega was slammed on the board. Moxley brought out chains, slamming Omega on them repeatedly before placing one in the mouth of Moxley and wrenching back with a submission. After Moxley brought an ice pick into the ring, Omega fought back, eventually hanging Moxley from the side of the ring by the neck using the chain. Omega then brought out a bag of broken glass from the table Moxley had driven him through weeks ago. Omega hit a powerbomb into the glass but still couldn't get a pin. Moxley then had to crawl through broken glass to escape a Sharpshooter. After using the ice pick on the forehead of Moxley, Omega called out The Young Bucks and Adam Page, demanding they bring out a net of barbed wire. Moxley suplexed Omega into the barbed wire, with both men landing in the netting. After they were assisted out, Omega hit a V-Trigger through the Full Gear set. They ended up back in the ring, with Moxley hitting the Paradigm Shift in the glass, but again finding himself unable to get the pin. Moxley then cut away the padding on the ring apron. Omega missed a Phoenix Splash, landing on the exposed wood. Moxley followed up with a Paradigm Shift to get the pinfall. A spot fest, pure and simple, but one that paid off a lengthy program between Moxley and Omega.
    AEW Full Gear results, recap, grades: Jon Moxley-Kenny Omega violence, heel turn highlight solid show - CBSSports.com

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I am not sure you saw AEW's PPV Full Gear, but the Unsanctioned, Lights Out Match between Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) and Kenny Omega was one of the most insane matches ever.



    AEW Full Gear results, recap, grades: Jon Moxley-Kenny Omega violence, heel turn highlight solid show - CBSSports.com

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    I have never been a big fan of these weapons, tacks, bleeding, etc. etc. kind of matches. I like spectacular matches and great leaps/jumps/crashes/etc. but the weapons stuff is not my thing.

    The best show almost on the WWE is NXT IMO, great wrestling and great talent.
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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I am not sure you saw AEW's PPV Full Gear, but the Unsanctioned, Lights Out Match between Jon Moxley (Dean Ambrose) and Kenny Omega was one of the most insane matches ever.



    AEW Full Gear results, recap, grades: Jon Moxley-Kenny Omega violence, heel turn highlight solid show - CBSSports.com

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    It sounds like it was a joke of a match, which those things often are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I have never been a big fan of these weapons, tacks, bleeding, etc. etc. kind of matches.
    Me neither because, with VERY few exceptions, that stuff is not real professional wrestling. It is usually glorified stunt men who lack actual professional wrestling ability trying to get over using cheap stunts.

    Almost anything is fair game in wrestling, as long as it is used correctly. Usually matches like that are not used correctly.

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