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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic Bob View Post
    As far as I can remember, the last time I watched an entire pro wrestling match was back when Andre the Giant was still around.
    Me too. I thought that was so cool and hardly ever missed a game. Then someone told me it was all fake, and I was busy with the job and all, and there it went.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    It seems you are threatened by any form of competition against WWE. WWE was at its best when it was going head-on with WCW.

    IMO WWE is in a vulnerable spot. Vince McMahon is getting older and focusing his money and time on the XFL.

    I don't think you realize how troubled the WWE is right now. For the past few years, they had a part-time Champion in Brock Lesnar that literally wrestled once a month. They have a lot of talent but not box office talent.

    Kofi Kingston as champion? LOL! He is a mid-carder. They are really desperate. I guess Daniel Bryan is injured again?
    I am not threatened, I am happy for good competition. Monday night wars were great, but I doubt that AEW will go to the level. And even then the WWE just shut down the competition by buying it. I am not worried that this will happen with AEW, but the WWE will still buy all the talent away from other companies.

    And I hated Brock, he wrestled way too few times, and almost only on Pay per Views. And Kofi Kingston was a great story, but he has to be "relieved" of that title pretty soon with a bigger (name) wrestler. Bring on Braun and have him flatten New Day.
    I commend Iran for at least being honest about the downing of the airplane, Russia still remains the same old lying rogue state. MH17 Will never be forgotten!!!!

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I am not threatened, I am happy for good competition. Monday night wars were great, but I doubt that AEW will go to the level. And even then the WWE just shut down the competition by buying it. I am not worried that this will happen with AEW, but the WWE will still buy all the talent away from other companies.

    And I hated Brock, he wrestled way too few times, and almost only on Pay per Views. And Kofi Kingston was a great story, but he has to be "relieved" of that title pretty soon with a bigger (name) wrestler. Bring on Braun and have him flatten New Day.
    WHAT A SHOW!

    Double or Nothing delivered. You can tell the crowd was in it.

    Bret Hart, Chris Jericho, Cody Rhodes, and the debut of John Moxley:

    Is it just me or is it getting crazier out there?

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Years back I was in Fresno waiting to board a plane. We had to wait until all the arriving passengers disembarked.
    Watching one by one your usual passengers coming off the plane I began seeing these huge guys all come off and walk right pass me.
    It wasn't football season so I knew they weren't some football team. What the heck? The guy in front of me tells one of them good luck tonight and then he turns to me and says they are here for a wrestling event tonight.

    So it was interesting to see maybe 8 or 10 of these wrestlers all riding together without any visible animosity that in a few hours would be mortal enemies.

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    The Undertaker Goldberg fight was one of the worst matches I have seen in a while. Both wrestlers looked completely gassed and the match was barely 10 minutes.
    Is it just me or is it getting crazier out there?

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The Undertaker Goldberg fight was one of the worst matches I have seen in a while. Both wrestlers looked completely gassed and the match was barely 10 minutes.
    Matt Riddle really let loose on Goldberg, calling him unsafe, dangerous and a liability. He might be talking about when Goldberg tried the jackhammer and crashed the Undertaker on his head/neck area.

    Now to be honest, Riddle has never been a fan of Goldberg but he really let Goldberg have it last night. And remember, Riddle is working for the WWE's brand NXT.

    Bill Goldberg is also no fan of Riddle as he has blocked him on Twitter. It will not stop Riddle though and as his tweets get to the media for somehow (maybe due to their inflammatory nature) Goldberg will still hear about them.

    But you are right, the match was horrendous. He should have never wrestled such an out of shape wrestler as Goldberg. Now Undertaker might not be a lot less rusty but Goldberg's last match was more than 2 years ago. And even that was a stretch IMHO, he was terrible then too.

    And for those who do not know who Matt Riddle is

    I commend Iran for at least being honest about the downing of the airplane, Russia still remains the same old lying rogue state. MH17 Will never be forgotten!!!!

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Matt Riddle really let loose on Goldberg, calling him unsafe, dangerous and a liability. He might be talking about when Goldberg tried the jackhammer and crashed the Undertaker on his head/neck area.

    Now to be honest, Riddle has never been a fan of Goldberg but he really let Goldberg have it last night. And remember, Riddle is working for the WWE's brand NXT.

    Bill Goldberg is also no fan of Riddle as he has blocked him on Twitter. It will not stop Riddle though and as his tweets get to the media for somehow (maybe due to their inflammatory nature) Goldberg will still hear about them.

    But you are right, the match was horrendous. He should have never wrestled such an out of shape wrestler as Goldberg. Now Undertaker might not be a lot less rusty but Goldberg's last match was more than 2 years ago. And even that was a stretch IMHO, he was terrible then too.

    And for those who do not know who Matt Riddle is

    Super Showdown was a major dude.

    Meanwhile Double or Nothing was a major success. Dean Ambrose, now John Moxley was underutilized in the WWE.
    Is it just me or is it getting crazier out there?

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    Honest question: How old are you guys?
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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Honest question: How old are you guys?
    Old enough to have seen the first Wrestlemania's and to have gone through the Raw/War era and the ECW era. To have seen the first few Undertaker matches to right here and right now. So pretty much old enough to enjoy the show and the theater that that kind of wrestling brings.

    Why? Are people of my age not allowed their entertainment? I would rather watch that fake reality than a lot of actual reality fake shows IMHO.
    I commend Iran for at least being honest about the downing of the airplane, Russia still remains the same old lying rogue state. MH17 Will never be forgotten!!!!

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    Re: Wrestlemania? Too long? Too over the top?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    Super Showdown was a major dude.

    Meanwhile Double or Nothing was a major success. Dean Ambrose, now John Moxley was underutilized in the WWE.
    Yup, Super Showdown was a major dud. Why can they not learn from their NXT Takeover Shows and realize Super is not always better. They are so crazy for PPV's that they forget to put the quality in their shows. And Dean Ambrose was injured for a very long time. Normally they just throw such wrestlers under the bus in the last part of their contract, I am happy they did not do this with Ambrose.

    But let us be honest, there is enough talent on the WWE roster to hold 6 shows equal or better to Double or Nothing, yet they keep getting it wrong time and time again. That is why there are not that many NXT takeover shows, they do not have enough wrestlers to do their shows 8 times a year so they are able to spread it around.

    For example big men are mostly bad guys used for the pleasure and the entertainment of the McMahon family. A bit less McMahon would already go a big way. And this Super Showdown **** should be terminated, it is a terrible idea. And the winner of the 50 men over the top dud was just a bad choice, a really bad choice.

    I would love to see a Hell in a Cell show or an elimination chamber with guys like Black against Baron Corbin, Bray Wyatt against Bobby Lashley, Kofi Kingston against Kevin Owens in a Hell in a Cell show or an extreme rules match, Samoa Joe against Dolph Ziggler in a last man standing match, Asuka against Lacey Evans, Bayley against Charlotte Flair, Velveteen Dream against Daniel Bryant and Braun Strowman against Lars Sullivan as bragging rights for the biggest 2 really active monsters on the Roster in an Ambulance match.

    You know, good old fun rather than keep relying on the same few matches with no imagination. Like that fake wrestler McMahon against the Big Dog or another lucha house party against Lars Sullivan monstrosity.
    I commend Iran for at least being honest about the downing of the airplane, Russia still remains the same old lying rogue state. MH17 Will never be forgotten!!!!

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