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yea, that was a chicken**** move by one of your players, kicking garrett in the head while being held down by one of your linemen
aaaand another dodge, completely failure
Exposing the inability of your posts to support you dishonest, factually wrong claims and meaningless feelings is hilarious :lamo

Facts, your own Video, NFL, Garrett, Browns players, Browns Coach > that your failed lies and feelings

so ill ask YOU again and much to my delight we'll watch you dodge and run again

Please quote me saying "im ok with ok with one of my guys repeatedly kicking garrett in the head while he was lying on the ground" thanks!
 
Its a publicity stunt. Kaepernick hasnt played in years, and he would have to learn a new offense if someone was to put him in the middle of a season.

He deserves another chance.

I have had enough with the NFL oligarchy.
 
QB grabbed at it. It never came off. Tackle was not "too hard." Problem was the after-tackle roughing up. Cheap stuff.

Rudolph kicking him in the nuts and then grabbing him by the balls played a big part in the helmet thump.
 
Rudolph was being roughed up while he was still down. He gets a pass.

Hard to say he deserves a pass. Both guys were ****stains that night. But, only one committed assault with a weapon.
 
Rudolph kicking him in the nuts and then grabbing him by the balls played a big part in the helmet thump.
Kicking in the nuts?
Grabbing the balls?
LMAO theres no factual proof any of that happened and video shows neither happened:lamo
 
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Kicking in the nuts?
Grabbing the balls?
LMAO theres no factual proof any of that happened and video shows neither happened:lamo


Are these images too small for you?

Looks like you may have been right all along, JB.

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And, this:

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supposedly occurring a moment before the helmet whack.
 
Are these images too small for you?

those images dont show any of the lies you claim to be true at all
do those images also show Garret factually grabbing a package in the second picture? or the ref getting his junk factually grabbed in the first pic? Hell maybe that shows the QB blowing the ref??? :lamo once again yor lies go down in flames!

so here we are in the same spot, your lies failing and getting exposed while my entertainment continues

FACTS:
theres no factual proof any of your claims happened and video shows neither happened.

Let us know when those facts change, thanks!

:popcorn2:
 
Any of you NFL junkies able to name all 32 current coaches/QBs without looking the answers up?
 
those images dont show any of the lies you claim to be true at all
do those images also show Garret factually grabbing a package in the second picture? or the ref getting his junk factually grabbed in the first pic? Hell maybe that shows the QB blowing the ref??? :lamo once again yor lies go down in flames!

so here we are in the same spot, your lies failing and getting exposed while my entertainment continues

FACTS:
theres no factual proof any of your claims happened and video shows neither happened.

Let us know when those facts change, thanks!

:popcorn2:

Lies? Yes, your post is full of them. As if you can't see Rudolph's foot on the guy's **** or his hand reaching for it. :roll:

Obviously objective opinion is not in the cards.
 
Any of you NFL junkies able to name all 32 current coaches/QBs without looking the answers up?

I could easily pre 2004. But after my Dad died it was hard to look at football the same. It was something we very much did together. Was even worse with the NBA. I could name at least 6 player from every team and their coaches.

Now im lucky if i know probably 10 coaches . . .

Maybe one day but ive/its never been the same.
 
Lies? Yes, your post is full of them. As if you can't see Rudolph's foot on the guy's **** or his hand reaching for it. :roll:

Obviously objective opinion is not in the cards.

Transaltion You still have ZERO facts to support youtr lies

Once again here we are int he same spot. Me hilariously destroying and exposing your posted lies

FACTS:
theres no factual proof any of your claims happened and video shows neither happened.

Let us know when those facts change, thanks!
 
Redskins are really bad.

Saints are back.

Got to wonder how long the Bucs are going to put up with Winston throwing 4 Ints. a game.

Broncos were up 23-0. And loss. Epic.

Too late for the Falcons to make a run and the playoffs?
 
Niners score with freakish TD as time expires. They cover the 10 point spread. If they bother to kick the PAT they beat the spread. Any angry gamblers out there?
 
Niners score with freakish TD as time expires. They cover the 10 point spread. If they bother to kick the PAT they beat the spread. Any angry gamblers out there?

Betting on football? Uh, not a wise move.
 
A misunderstanding??? You call hitting someone's bare head with a helmet, a simple misunderstanding? Gosh, I hope you never misunderstand anything I say, if I'm less than 30 yards from you. LOL

It was a heat of the moment play. I think a moderator said this in the thread:

Myles Garrett should be banned from the NFL

Total overreaction

Something like this has never happened in the NFL.

Wrong. Things like this happen all the time in practice, the preseason, and during the game.

I remember Cris Carter talking about trying to gauge the eyes out of a defender. Football is a tough game. People get caught up in the heat of the moment.

Look at this video where Michael Strahan admitted he did the same thing Garrett did.

Garrett is a good kid:

 
All the craziness aside, this year the league has screwed the officiating up so bad its got to be hard to know how to play the game. Their definition of and "illegal hit" is ridiculous. They might as well just color code the uniforms and say of anything outside of zone A makes contact with anything outside of zone b its a penalty. The pass interference ruling has just got worse. they are missing ever more blatant calls and when they are challenged the play on the field s upheld. Who knows where or how you can hit a quarterback.

Its ridiculous.
 
It was a heat of the moment play. I think a moderator said this in the thread:

Myles Garrett should be banned from the NFL

Total overreaction

Something like this has never happened in the NFL.

Wrong. Things like this happen all the time in practice, the preseason, and during the game.

I remember Cris Carter talking about trying to gauge the eyes out of a defender. Football is a tough game. People get caught up in the heat of the moment.

Look at this video where Michael Strahan admitted he did the same thing Garrett did.

Garrett is a good kid:

Garrett is a good kid but he is also a dumb kid.

Now he is probably out for the year.

You want to fight with your fists and feet then go MMA.

I know there are defenders of Garrett stating it was in the heat of the moment and I understand that. But if this is just waved off due to "heat of the moment" then you are going to have players' specific job to take the helmet off of a team's star player and wrack his head with it eliminating him.

For the generous amount of money they are paid these players shouldn't be that stupid.
 
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It was a heat of the moment play. I think a moderator said this in the thread:

Myles Garrett should be banned from the NFL

Total overreaction

Something like this has never happened in the NFL.

Wrong. Things like this happen all the time in practice, the preseason, and during the game.

I remember Cris Carter talking about trying to gauge the eyes out of a defender. Football is a tough game. People get caught up in the heat of the moment.

Look at this video where Michael Strahan admitted he did the same thing Garrett did.

Garrett is a good kid:



So? Since when do two wrongs make a right?

And yes, of course there is violence in football that happens outside of plays. But we shouldn't call it a simple "misunderstanding." A misunderstanding is when you tell the person you fetched a cup of coffee for: "Oops, you said two envelopes of sweetener but I think I got only one, sorry." If the person instead of saying "oh, no worries, that's OK, thank you anyway," responds by getting his/her motorcycle helmet and bashing your head in with it, well, that's no longer a simple misunderstanding, is it? Get it?

At least call it for what it is: a violent, unsportsmanlike act also known as assault.

Banning for life is an over-reaction. But a long ban for several games, yes, that's what needs to (and will) happen in this case.
 
Garrett is a good kid but he is also a dumb kid.

Now he is probably out for the year.

You want to fight with your fists and feet then go MMA.

I know there are defenders of Garrett stating it was in the heat of the moment and I understand that. But if this is just waved off due to "heat of the moment" then you are going to have players' specific job to take the helmet off of a team's star player and wrack his head with it eliminating him.

For the generous amount of money they are paid these players shouldn't be that stupid.

Look, these dudes are not known for their smarts. They are known for their physical strength and athletic ability, which doesn't necessarily come together with intelligence. There is a reason why many college football kids are given some easier classes to maintain eligibility. They aren't the smartest people around. Periodically you see incredibly boneheaded decisions, plays, or acts, from these kids. Yep, many of them are quite dumb.

Remember the guy who ran to the end zone and let go of the ball to dive in for more dramatic effect, but did so BEFORE crossing the freaking line? Subsequently his team was unable to score from the 1 yard line. The dumb celebration cost his team 7 points. I don't remember who did it. It was a college kid. The video clip went viral. Everybody was laughing out loud at the dumb kid.

Much simpler than that is the face mask penalty. How stupid one needs to be to grab the opponent's mask and pull on it? First of all, it's dangerous, you might break someone's neck. Second, almost invariably it is seen by one of the multiple refs and multiple cameras and you get a penalty that hurts your team. Sure, there are some accidental face masks, you throw your hands around and you're trying to grab anything to stop your opponent, and you accidentally grab the face mask, that's fine, but sometimes it seems like it's done quite intentionally. So, when it's intentional, it's extremely dumb. You do it, it invariably backfires due to the stiff penalty, so, why in the hell do these dumb players keep doing it???

This said, the head coach has the responsibility of curbing these behaviors (unsportsmanlike conduct), and the league has the responsibility of issuing penalties, fines, and suspensions.

So, I'm not saying that being dumb is exculpatory. I'm for several games of suspension for Garrett. But yes, many football players are quite dumb. Not all, of course. But many are.
 
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All the craziness aside, this year the league has screwed the officiating up so bad its got to be hard to know how to play the game. Their definition of and "illegal hit" is ridiculous. They might as well just color code the uniforms and say of anything outside of zone A makes contact with anything outside of zone b its a penalty. The pass interference ruling has just got worse. they are missing ever more blatant calls and when they are challenged the play on the field s upheld. Who knows where or how you can hit a quarterback.

Its ridiculous.

True. Remember when nobody could tell what's a catch? The rules did become a bit clearer, but yes, they are not consistently enforced, and refereeing has been very bad lately, with some bad calls costing teams their victories; that is, there's been a number of result-altering bad calls.

Recently my team was the victim of one of those. Christian McCaffrey scored a TD in the last second of a game (Carolina at Green Bay), which would have taken the game to OT, but the refs wrongly marked him shy of the end zone, so we lost.
 
And bears fans thought they could win a SB with that bum at QB. LOL
 
To be fair we can take any video of any event, go frame by frame and interpret certain 'frames' to say/show something that didn't happen.

Garrett clearly should not have whacked the guy with the hat. But, common sense dictates that something set him off. Those images suggest what it may have been.
 
True. Remember when nobody could tell what's a catch? The rules did become a bit clearer, but yes, they are not consistently enforced, and refereeing has been very bad lately, with some bad calls costing teams their victories; that is, there's been a number of result-altering bad calls.

Recently my team was the victim of one of those. Christian McCaffrey scored a TD in the last second of a game (Carolina at Green Bay), which would have taken the game to OT, but the refs wrongly marked him shy of the end zone, so we lost.

Determining what qualifies as a catch is a hot topic. Yes, there has been some very bad calls this year that makes one shake their head.

But giving a little credit here to the refs. The camera coverage of games is so much better now than just 20 yrs ago. We TV viewers are able to have a view that is extremely better than anyone on the field. So the viewer has a microscopic view of that player while the ref has a view on the ground amid a herd of running buffalo. When you go stand on the sidelines the game looks far different than those watching on a big screen tv.
 
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