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Nfl 2019

There are no dominant teams in the NFL for 2019. The 49ers just proved they have a weak offense and their defense can be circumvented as shown by the Seahawks.

The 49ers play the Seahawks again. The rest the 49ers division, like the Patriot's division, is relatively weak. At least, the Seahawks are another strong team in the 49ers' division.
 
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Threegoofs said:
And the Bears only loss was....to the Dolphins.
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Not sure what the 'phins playoff chances were for 1985 but I do know the 'phins wanted to make sure the Bears weren't an undefeated team. And that game was played in Miami.
 
Threegoofs said:
They went to the AFC championship that year.
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Upset by the Patriots. We were so bummed. After seeing the Bears shut out the Giants and Rams, we all expected to get another crack at the Dolphins in the SB. Instead we got....well, a blow out.
 
The Dolphins are a joke. More fans know about Ace Ventura pet detective than anyone on that Dolphins roster. How old are those players btw? 80-90? Open a bottle of champagne where at the old folks home?

The Patriots are a legendary franchise. The 16-0 Patriots would gut the 14-0 Dolphins like a fish.
 
Bucky said:
The Dolphins are a joke. More fans know about Ace Ventura pet detective than anyone on that Dolphins roster. How old are those players btw? 80-90? Open a bottle of champagne where at the old folks home?

The Patriots are a legendary franchise. The 16-0 Patriots would gut the 14-0 Dolphins like a fish.
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I doubt that.
 
Jack Hays said:
I doubt that.
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I have no doubt if somehow those teams could be matched in some odd time travel that the Pats would crush the Dolphins.

Not because of how good or bad they were, but I’m guessing the heaviest lineman on the Dolphins would be the lightest lineman on the Pats.

Football players have gotten huge over the last 40 years.

Remember William ‘The Fridge’ Perry? He was gigantic compared to other players. He was 6’2” and 335 lbs.

He wouldn’t even be the biggest guy on today’s Bear defensive line today.
 
Threegoofs said:
I have no doubt if somehow those teams could be matched in some odd time travel that the Pats would crush the Dolphins.

Not because of how good or bad they were, but I’m guessing the heaviest lineman on the Dolphins would be the lightest lineman on the Pats.

Football players have gotten huge over the last 40 years.

Remember William ‘The Fridge’ Perry? He was gigantic compared to other players. He was 6’2” and 335 lbs.

He wouldn’t even be the biggest guy on today’s Bear defensive line today.
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In my version of time travel, teams are equalized to compensate for generational size differences.
 
Bucky said:
The Dolphins are a joke. More fans know about Ace Ventura pet detective than anyone on that Dolphins roster. How old are those players btw? 80-90? Open a bottle of champagne where at the old folks home?

The Patriots are a legendary franchise. The 16-0 Patriots would gut the 14-0 Dolphins like a fish.
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Too bad they couldn't "gut" the Giants. :)
 
Jack Hays said:
You already posited time travel.
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I'll stick with the two team that actually did play and could not get a Superbowl rematch due to six turnovers in the 1985 AFC Championship game.

The Dolphins offense, with Dan Marino's quick release and frequent use of the outlet pass, was the perfect solution to the Bears 46 D. In subsequent years other teams began to adopt it. And one seems to have perfected it in this day and age: Brady's Patriots.
 
calamity said:
I'll stick with the two team that actually did play and could not get a Superbowl rematch due to six turnovers in the 1985 AFC Championship game.

The Dolphins offense, with Dan Marino's quick release and frequent use of the outlet pass, was the perfect solution to the Bears 46 D. In subsequent years other teams began to adopt it. And one seems to have perfected it in this day and age: Brady's Patriots.
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That's fine. Neither the Bears nor the "85 Dolphins were part of the discussion.
 
Jack Hays said:
That's fine. Neither the Bears nor the "85 Dolphins were part of the discussion.
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They were earlier. And, since we're playing time machine... :)
 
calamity said:
Too bad they couldn't "gut" the Giants. :)
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They did. It took a lucky throw from Eli Manning where he threw the ball with his eyes closed and his wr caught on with his helmet.
 
calamity said:
Homer statement of the year right there.

Patriots 2007, 18-1--lost Superbowl

Bears 1985, 18-1, beat Patriots in Superbowl 46-10

Now that was impressive.
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Homer statement of the year? Big failure. I have never, ever rooted for the Dolphins, not even close. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the Dolphins (actually, much the opposite). I support only two NFL teams; I added one when I moved to a different state, so I support the one from the previous state (loosely now, since I moved 16 years ago, but I still watch their games when I can - it's off-market for me - and I still do root for them, although they haven't been a good team for ages) and the one from my current state. Hint: I've never, ever lived in Florida.

Now, this said, I'm not blind to facts.

FACT: The Miami Dolphins were the only UNDEFEATED NFL National Champions. Period, full stop. It's a FACT, not opinion.

Again, nobody gives a f.... for the regular season records, if then you fail in the playoffs. Nobody who thinks, I mean. Or, certainly no WINNERS think so. For losers, maybe it's great to do well in the regular season even if they lose in the playoffs... they can still say, "oh, well, at least we had fun during the regular season." That's a consolation prize. Not the real prize.

Now, indeed, the Bears' accomplishment in 1985 was much bigger than the Patriots' accomplishment in 2007, for the simple fact that the Bears were the f....... National Champions in 1985, while the Patriots were NOT the National Champions in 2007.

Sure, the Patriots have several very impressive accomplishments. That's also a fact that I won't deny. But, FACT: The Patriots were never the UNDEFEATED National Champions. That honor, so far, belongs exclusively to the Dolphins.

As for the 2007 18-1 Patriots record which included a Super Bowl defeat to the then lowly New York Giants, I'll tell you what: that's not exactly an accomplishment. That's actually THE BIGGEST CHOKE in NFL History. If I were a Patriots' fan, I'd be ashamed of that, not proud. Again, the Patriots have plenty of phenomenal accomplishments to celebrate, but the 2007 season is NOT one of them. Because, see, the Patriots are winners. Celebrating a second-place finish if for losers; for those whose best record is to at least finish second. Nope, the Patriots are very used to finishing first... so finishing second is nothing other than failure, for them. Go watch a re-run of Belichick's and Tom Brady's Super Bowl post-game interviews in 2007 if you can find them, and I guarantee that they weren't happy, and weren't celebrating. After all, they had just lost an opportunity to tie the Dolphins' accomplishment of being undefeated national champs, but choked and failed to do it. What exactly should they be celebrating?
 
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Bucky said:
They did. It took a lucky throw from Eli Manning where he threw the ball with his eyes closed and his wr caught on with his helmet.
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What you call a lucky play, most people call a legendary NFL moment, one that will be remembered forever and ever, one that was a thing of beauty, when David against all odds knocked out Goliath in the most thrilling and unlikely manner.

Patriots fans making fun of that, is the most misguided and biased comment they could issue. It's actually kind of sad. It betrays their jealousy that the lowly Giants stole away their shiny perfect season, and did so in the most gorgeous possible manner. So, they keep making excuses... saying that if they played 10 times that season, the Pats would crush the Giants 9 out of 10... maybe. But the problem with this idea, is that it can only be expressed by using IF. If this, if that. Now, the REALITY is that the Giants took the candy from the mouth of Patriots, and did that in rather spectacular fashion. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Giants won. The Patriots lost, in the biggest choke in all of NFL History. 18 wins, and they had to lose one game... THE game. THE one that counts. The Super Bowl.

LOL, too funny.
 
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What you call a lucky play, most people call a legendary NFL moment, one that will be remembered forever and ever, one that was a thing of beauty, when David against all odds knocked out Goliath in the most thrilling and unlikely manner.

Patriots fans making fun of that, is the most misguided and biased comment they could issue. It's actually kind of sad. It betrays their jealousy that the lowly Giants stole away their shiny perfect season, and did so in the most gorgeous possible manner. So, they keep making excuses... saying that if they played 10 times that season, the Pats would crush the Giants 9 out of 10... maybe. But the problem with this idea, is that it can only be expressed by using IF. If this, if that. Now, the REALITY is that the Giants took the candy from the mouth of Patriots, and did that in rather spectacular fashion. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. The Giants won. The Patriots lost, in the biggest choke in all of NFL History. 18 wins, and they had to lose one game... THE game. THE one that counts. The Super Bowl.

LOL, too funny.
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Since my son has been born ( his mother is from Boston) the Patriots have never failed to make the AFC championship game....he is 9.

Safe to say Patriots fans are over that one loss a decade ago. Also the biggest choke job in NFL history was 28-3.
 
Higgins86 said:
Since my son has been born ( his mother is from Boston) the Patriots have never failed to make the AFC championship game....he is 9.

Safe to say Patriots fans are over that one loss a decade ago. Also the biggest choke job in NFL history was 28-3.
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Hence (the bold) why I know the NFL is rigged.
 
calamity said:
Hence (the bold) why I know the NFL is rigged.
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It’s not rigged it’s just that the NFL is full of **** teams and dumb head coaches. Most of what the patriots get right is common sense stuff and clock management.
 
Higgins86 said:
Since my son has been born ( his mother is from Boston) the Patriots have never failed to make the AFC championship game....he is 9.

Safe to say Patriots fans are over that one loss a decade ago. Also the biggest choke job in NFL history was 28-3.
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Like I said, I don't deny that Patriots' fans have a lot to celebrate. I was just saying that 2007 is definitely not a reason for a fan of a winning team like the Pats to celebrate. Finishing second is great for mediocre teams, but not for the Pats' dynasty.

That 28-3 choke was maybe the second biggest choke, allowing a lead to disappear. But Atlanta's season wasn't perfect thus far, so, I consider 2007 as the biggest choke, and 28-3 as the second biggest. Hey, I hate Atlanta anyway so if you want to reverse and call that one the biggest choke, fine with me.

By the way, Atlanta's choke was not even an isolated record: the Bucs have also lost after a 28-3 lead, and their collapse happened in only one quarter, the 4th, while Atlanta's was spread over three quarters. Look up the Bucs at the Cardinals on 11/8/1987. Sure, it wasn't the Super Bowl, but it was even worse in terms of choking, all in one quarter.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at St. Louis Cardinals - November 8th, 1987 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
 
Wow, huge brawl in the Steelers at Browns game. Myles Garrett clubbed Mason Rudolph in the head with Rudolph's own helmet. Wild! Garrett of course got ejected and will get suspended. And Maurkice Pouncey, erm, pounced on Garrett and kicked him in the helmet while he was on the ground; got ejected too. Larry Ogunjoby also got ejected. MMA in the NFL!

OBJ taunted Tomlin, making yawning signs at him, as the Browns beat the Steelers. That's a reference to Tomlin yawning in an interview when they asked him about OBJ.

LOL, the unsportsmanlike conducts were more entertaining than the choppy game.
 
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Eight seconds to go in a game in which you are winning and you pull this crap.

Now you are suspended.

For the amount of money you are paid there is just no excuse for this.
 
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