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Should players be suspended for not standing for the anthem?

Should the NFL suspend players sitting during the anthem


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Bucky

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Consider the NBA rules:

The NBA's longstanding rule for team conduct states that players, coaches, and trainers are to stand and line up in a dignified posture along the sidelines or on the foul line during the playing of the national anthem.

Citing its rule, former NBA commissioner David Stern suspended former LSU and star Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf (Chris Jackson) in 1996 for sitting down during the national anthem when he played for the Denver Nuggets. Abdul-Rauf suspension was lifted after one day when he agreed to stand during the anthem but pray silently in his hands.

Unlike NFL, the NBA has a rule that players must stand during playing of national anthem | NOLA.com

To end this controversy if Roger Goodell had any integrity he would suspend players that sat during the anthem.

If Goodell and the league punish and fine players for bogus trumped up charges, why not for sitting during the anthem?
 
Consider the NBA rules:



Unlike NFL, the NBA has a rule that players must stand during playing of national anthem | NOLA.com

To end this controversy if Roger Goodell had any integrity he would suspend players that sat during the anthem.

If Goodell and the league punish and fine players for bogus trumped up charges, why not for sitting during the anthem?

Actually, you answered your own question. No, they shouldn't since unlike the NBA, there is no rule in the NFL for not standing during the playing of the national anthem.

/thread.
 
Consider the NBA rules:



Unlike NFL, the NBA has a rule that players must stand during playing of national anthem | NOLA.com

To end this controversy if Roger Goodell had any integrity he would suspend players that sat during the anthem.

If Goodell and the league punish and fine players for bogus trumped up charges, why not for sitting during the anthem?

Your source says there is no rule that NFL players should stand during the anthem. You cannot enforce nonexistent rules.
 
Your source says there is no rule that NFL players should stand during the anthem. You cannot enforce nonexistent rules.

Should the NFL change the rules like the NBA and start suspsending players?
 
Should the NFL change the rules like the NBA and start suspsending players?

If it wants to. Stupid thing to worry about though.
 
Should the NFL change the rules like the NBA and start suspsending players?

No, and I'm not sure why nationalists think forced faux patriotism is patriotism. How about a law where no American is allowed to step onto the field in any sport until they raise their right arm in their air and declare their undying allegiance for these most United of States while jerking off a bald eagle with the left arm? Now that would show those unAmerican ****s.
 
No, and I'm not sure why nationalists think forced faux patriotism is patriotism. How about a law where no American is allowed to step onto the field in any sport until they raise their right arm in their air and declare their undying allegiance for these most United of States while jerking off a bald eagle with the left arm? Now that would show those unAmerican ****s.

The NBA has more diversity than the NFL. Why would they force this faux patriotism?

FYI, most schools require you to stand for the pledge of allegiance. Is our school's system wrong too?
 
Should the NFL change the rules like the NBA and start suspsending players?

Why is forced patriotism so important to you, Bucky?
 
The NBA has more diversity than the NFL. Why would they force this faux patriotism?

FYI, most schools require you to stand for the pledge of allegiance. Is our school's system wrong too?

Actually, public schools are not allowed to force anyone to stand for the pledge of allegiance:

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette

Do research before you say stuff like that. As far as I'm concerned, what's good for public schools is good for the NFL and NBA.
 
The NBA has more diversity than the NFL. Why would they force this faux patriotism?

FYI, most schools require you to stand for the pledge of allegiance. Is our school's system wrong too?

Yes, it is very much wrong to force every school child in America to stand up and chant allegiance to a piece of cloth and it's eerily reminiscent of the patriotism brainwashing of the third Reich. Patriotism is voluntarily caring for your country and deciding to take action to make it better.

Many people seem to think the pledge is the highest form of patriotism and once they're done reciting it mindlessly they've checked off their patriotism block for the week and can move on. Perhaps instead of forced displays of patriotism we should be working on building a country Americans are so proud of they celebrate it voluntarily.

Actually, public schools are not allowed to force anyone to stand for the pledge of allegiance:

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette

Do research before you say stuff like that. As far as I'm concerned, what's good for public schools is good for the NFL and NBA.

That didn't stop them from suspending me for a few days in high school for not standing for the Texas pledge. Fascists love forced patriotism.
 
MY private school required me to stand for the national anthem and stand for the morning prayer.

Private schools are not "most" schools as you posted. Private schools, like other private organizations... like the NFL and NBA can make their own rules. PUBLIC schools are bound by the Constitution. The Constitution works for me. Why doesn't it work for you?
 
Yes, it is very much wrong to force every school child in America to stand up and chant allegiance to a piece of cloth and it's eerily reminiscent of the patriotism brainwashing of the third Reich. Patriotism is voluntarily caring for your country and deciding to take action to make it better.

Many people seem to think the pledge is the highest form of patriotism and once they're done reciting it mindlessly they've checked off their patriotism block for the week and can move on. Perhaps instead of forced displays of patriotism we should be working on building a country Americans are so proud of they celebrate it voluntarily.

That didn't stop them from suspending me for a few days in high school for not standing for the Texas pledge. Fascists love forced patriotism.

Rabid,

Did anyone force you to go to school?
 
How is it forced? They can choose to sit. Just like you can choose to not obey your boss at work.

Then it's force. If you are enforcing a rule, then you are forcing players to stand. Just because Roger Goodell and the refs aren't waltzing around with cattle prods in the event a player wants to knee doesn't mean they are not being indirectly forced by newly imposed rules.
 
Rabid,

Did anyone force you to go to school?

Yes, children in the US are legally required to go to K-12 schooling. Are you really desperate enough to pretend its voluntary?

What you seem to forget is that forcing kids to chant the pledge in schools didn't start until the 1950's in reaction to the cold war and Mcarthyism. It is not an intrinsic American value, it was arbitrarily added to serve an agenda. So the question is, why do you hate freedom so much?
 
Yes, children in the US are legally required to go to K-12 schooling. Are you really desperate enough to pretend its voluntary?

What you seem to forget is that forcing kids to chant the pledge in schools didn't start until the 1950's in reaction to the cold war and Mcarthyism. It is not an intrinsic American value, it was arbitrarily added to serve an agenda. So the question is, why do you hate freedom so much?

It was part of the school flag honor events starting back in the 1800s, but it wasn't until 1942 that Congress recognized it, without the "under God" part.

The wording has been altered a number of times, and in 1954, Eisenhower signed the pledge as mandatory for schoolchildren into law.

Then the opt-outs came.

I don't really see a problem with the pledge. It's wording is a bit antiquated for this day and age, but there's nothing wrong with fostering a sense of patriotism around the words "liberty and justice for all." That's still a pretty lofty ideal that is worth recognizing.
 
When you get punished for not respecting authority, aka the flag, national anthem or the great leader... that is when you have turned into a fascist dictatorship.
 
Consider the NBA rules:



Unlike NFL, the NBA has a rule that players must stand during playing of national anthem | NOLA.com

To end this controversy if Roger Goodell had any integrity he would suspend players that sat during the anthem.

If Goodell and the league punish and fine players for bogus trumped up charges, why not for sitting during the anthem?

That should be up the NFL. If they decide that their players actions are costing them money or causing disorder then NFL should suspend them. Yeah they got free speech but they are on their employer's dime. A mail carrier can't refuse to deliver a package to planned parenthood because it violates their religious views. A Walmart employee can't shout "Walmart sucks a huge donkey dick!" while on the clock. Hospital worker can't call patients pieces of **** while on the clock. Heck there are stories of city workers being fired for saying racists or allegedly racist stuff while off the clock. A high school principal was suspended because he attended a rally opposing the removal of a confederate statue and was accused of being a racist because he dressed up like biker while in that rally. Being a anti-American ********er while on the NFL's dime is no different.
 
Actually, you answered your own question. No, they shouldn't since unlike the NBA, there is no rule in the NFL for not standing during the playing of the national anthem.

/thread.

No, but there is about 'personal messages'

Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Article 8 under Section 4 of the NFL rulebook.

VERIFY: Are NFL football players required to stand for the National Anthem? | 11alive.com
 
No, but there is about 'personal messages'

Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Article 8 under Section 4 of the NFL rulebook.

VERIFY: Are NFL football players required to stand for the National Anthem? | 11alive.com

Apparently, the NFL doesn't interpret it that way since no one has been suspended.
 
Consider the NBA rules:



Unlike NFL, the NBA has a rule that players must stand during playing of national anthem | NOLA.com

To end this controversy if Roger Goodell had any integrity he would suspend players that sat during the anthem.

If Goodell and the league punish and fine players for bogus trumped up charges, why not for sitting during the anthem?

It's entirely up to those that own the NFL and the teams. Your poll options does not reflect this so didn't vote.
 
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