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Schroedinger's Kaep: Distraction and Non-Distraction

CMPancake said:
Ahh yes, a Kevin Seifert hot take saying Kaep's accuracy is what is keeping him off an NFL's team bench. Despite the fact I've already demonstrated he's more accurate then most of the back ups presently signed onto teams.

Are you gonna elaborate more on why you think race or liberals? (All while mistaking Jim Brown for James Brown.)
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I love the Hot Takes on Kaepernick's "accuracy" issues when they come from the same network that relentlessly pimped Tim Tebow, who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Kaep and Andrew Luck have identical career completion percentages, and the national sports media can't stop tripping over its own collective dick in its rush to tell us how awesome Andrew Luck is.
 
Kobie said:
I love the Hot Takes on Kaepernick's "accuracy" issues when they come from the same network that relentlessly pimped Tim Tebow, who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

Kaep and Andrew Luck have identical career completion percentages, and the national sports media can't stop tripping over its own collective dick in its rush to tell us how awesome Andrew Luck is.
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The common "excuse" they make for Kaep's completion percentage for being around 60% is because he made plays with his feet when he couldn't find a throw he could make. Like that in some way being athletic hurts him as a Quarterback.
 
CMPancake said:
As the Pre-Season winds down and the dawn of the NFL regular season just days away, the sport has taken it's toll on a number of NFL quarterbacks to injury, and competition. While the NFL teams like to say they are about creating the most competitive team in the NFL, the actions of many organizations say a completely different message. Like it or not, NFL teams can win or lose games at the QB position alone. The difference between two players like Peyton Manning and Paxton Lynch can have the Broncos going to the Superbowl, or missing the playoffs entirely. Ask the Cleveland Browns who have gone through more Quarterbacks than Trump has gone through large ties and haven't made the playoffs in what seems like an eternity. One free agent in particular is Colin Kaepernick, "Kaep" first got recognized in the NFL limelight after replacing Alex Smith as the starting QB in the 49ers after Alex Smith went down with a concussion. He played so well, they benched Smith regardless of his health and continued to play Kapernick. The team went on to lose in the Superbowl to the Ravens. The following season they went on to lose the Conference championship to the future Superbowl champions, the Seahawks.

Now Kaep is most known for being the guy who started the trend of kneeling during the National Anthem, and since then that seems to be the only thing he is known for. All of his success, potential, and athletic ability or forgotten and now he can only ever be seen as the guy who dares not to stand for the national anthem. And because of it, Colin has been unable to find a job in the NFL after he opted out of his contract with the 49'ers. By no means does Kaep's recent performance in the NFL warrant him a starting job in the NFL, but any front office worth their salt would want to have a QB who played in a Superbowl to hold a clipboard over other players who have shown they are unable to hack it in the Professional league. Throughout this pre-season alone, there were numerous holes at the QB position that have been laughably filled with terrible players. The likes of Dan Orlasvky (Former Lion QB who ran into the back of his own end zone), Ryan Mallet (Notable bust), Joe Webb (who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL since 2011 and has played WR since), Mark Sanchez (butt fumble), Bryan Hoyer (below average game manager), Nick Foles (One year wonder), McCown (Completely inconsistent old man), Matt Barkley (lol), Geno Smith(Bust), Blaine Gabbart (bust), and Jay Cutler (a formally retired player who refuses to do cardio). All of these players were able to find jobs holding clipboards and in Cutler's case, start in the NFL.
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In closing, it has come to a point that NFL teams that do not sign Kaep will now face having their troubled and controversial histories revisited for their refusal in taking a QB who protested peacefully while signing either laughably terrible QBs, or signing and keeping players who have actual off-field issues.
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The NFL is in the ENTERTAINMENT business. If signing Kaepernick means that they lose viewers, then he's bad for business. Winning is part of the entertainment, not the other way around. If an NFL team was the winningest team ever, but everyone hated them and refused to watch them because they were all neo-nazi/WP scum on offence and radical New Black Panther/NOI scum on defense, the team would be a failure. It's all about viewers and nothing else. While winning draws viewers, it does not guarantee them.
 
faithful_servant said:
The NFL is in the ENTERTAINMENT business. If signing Kaepernick means that they lose viewers, then he's bad for business.
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You get more viewers if your team is in the wildcard playoff game, than missing the playoffs because your team had Blaine Gabbart taking snaps.

faithful_servant said:
Winning is part of the entertainment, not the other way around.
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****ing grade A bull**** right here. Everyone loves a winner. Look at the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, and the Seahawks. Do you think they're hurting business wise? Of course not, because they consistently put out a competitive team every season that people pay to see and pay for their crappy merchandise.

faithful_servant said:
If an NFL team was the winningest team ever, but everyone hated them and refused to watch them because they were all neo-nazi/WP scum on offence and radical New Black Panther/NOI scum on defense, the team would be a failure.
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Ray Lewis plead guilty on obstruction of justice to a crime regarding his double homicide, and yet despite that, Baltimore still managed to have a sold out Superbowl the following year. If the fans are merciful enough to forgive a murderer, they can forgive someone who takes a knee during the anthem.

faithful_servant said:
It's all about viewers and nothing else. While winning draws viewers, it does not guarantee them.
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Have you ever lived in a area with a failing NFL team? I lived in Miami during the 1-15 season and home games were blacked out because they couldn't be bothered to generate enough viewership for them. If you sincerely feel a fan of a franchise would be okay with missing the playoffs with Blaine Gabbart or Geno Smith when they have much better players like Kaep around to pick up then you are completely out of touch with the sport.
 
Kobie said:
I love the Hot Takes on Kaepernick's "accuracy" issues when they come from the same network that relentlessly pimped Tim Tebow, who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
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ESPN "pimped" Tebow in the sense of being a good and accurate QB (since that seems to be the issue you're taking with their comments about Kaepernick)? Outside of Skip Bayless, I don't remember many people pimping Tebow's skills. And this is from someone who really isn't a fan of ESPN.

As it relates to Skip, it's not hard to find some random person at ESPN being stupid about someone. Lest we forget that Jaworski suggested Kaepernick could be one of the greatest QB's ever (and is the source for one of the best examples of everything that's wrong with how ESPN covers "news" now).

The thing with ESPN right now is they have someone that is able or willing to take a hot take on every side of an issue, because hot takes is all they are anymore
 
CMPancake said:
If the fans are merciful enough to forgive a murderer, they can forgive someone who takes a knee during the anthem.
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I think that statement nails the entire issue right on the head.

The unwashed masses are the problem; that and the perceived reaction that the businesses think the masses will have.

If people could show even half the concern over Kaep's message as they do over how he's spreading it, we just might recognize some opportunities for improvement in this Great Country of ours.

But we're too hung up on respecting the Captain's speech about how great the ship is, to interrupt him with the fact that the ship is sort-of on fire.

I served honorably in the U.S. military, not for a song or a piece of cloth, but for the great things about America which they represent. It's a tragedy that superficial symbols are seen as more important than the concepts and ideals they symbolize. Bass ****ing ackwards.
 
CMPancake said:
****ing grade A bull**** right here. Everyone loves a winner. Look at the Patriots, Steelers, Packers, and the Seahawks. Do you think they're hurting business wise? Of course not, because they consistently put out a competitive team every season that people pay to see and pay for their crappy merchandise.
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Winning isn't the ONLY thing that is important to the NFL teams. It is a part of it, but it isn't the only thing. They are in the entertainment industry and they are there to make money off of "butts in seats", ad revenue, merch. etc. If a player cuts into that, they won't sign them, no matter how good they are. They'll always play the balancing act of wanting to win (since it is a big part of the revenue stream) vs. pushing away fans, but if a player's value in winning is outweighed by the negatives of their impact on revenues, then they won't get signed.
 
faithful_servant said:
Winning isn't the ONLY thing that is important to the NFL teams.
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Absolutely false, why are the wealthiest teams coincidentally also the most successful? The reason why anyone gives a **** about the Cowboys over the Texans is because the Cowboys developed a history of championships and winning. Save for the exception of the Raiders, fan bases only start giving more money to their team when they start generating a half decent team. Go look at the price difference in tickets for a Patriot game, and a Cleveland Brown game. No one will watch lousy, terrible football.


faithful_servant said:
It is a part of it, but it isn't the only thing.
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Do you think the New England front office looks into players at the draft and free agency and look for players that they can't use to optimize their chances of winning championships?

faithful_servant said:
They are in the entertainment industry and they are there to make money off of "butts in seats", ad revenue, merch. etc.
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Go ahead and look at revenue for the Patriots and look at revenue for the Browns.


faithful_servant said:
If a player cuts into that, they won't sign them, no matter how good they are.
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And how does one gauge that? According to all numbers, NFL ratings have never been higher, and ratings for teams generally go up with the more successful they perform. I much rather watch Tom Brady air it out for 5 Touchdowns to 4 different guys than Blaine Gabbart under center trying to grasp the concept of object permanence.

faithful_servant said:
They'll always play the balancing act of wanting to win (since it is a big part of the revenue stream) vs. pushing away fans, but if a player's value in winning is outweighed by the negatives of their impact on revenues, then they won't get signed.
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And again, if the NFL could forgive Ray Lewis for obstruction of justice to his double murder investigation, Richie Incognito to nearly bullying a fellow player into suicide, and Michael Vick for hosting dog fights for sport, they most certainly will get over a dude kneeling during the anthem.

Ask yourself this: If your starting QB for your favorite team went down with an injury, and you need to win one game to clinch a playoff berth. Do you want a total failure at QB like Gabbart, or a QB with playoff success that kneels during the anthem?
 
CMPancake said:
As the Pre-Season winds down and the dawn of the NFL regular season just days away, the sport has taken it's toll on a number of NFL quarterbacks to injury, and competition. While the NFL teams like to say they are about creating the most competitive team in the NFL, the actions of many organizations say a completely different message. Like it or not, NFL teams can win or lose games at the QB position alone. The difference between two players like Peyton Manning and Paxton Lynch can have the Broncos going to the Superbowl, or missing the playoffs entirely. Ask the Cleveland Browns who have gone through more Quarterbacks than Trump has gone through large ties and haven't made the playoffs in what seems like an eternity. One free agent in particular is Colin Kaepernick, "Kaep" first got recognized in the NFL limelight after replacing Alex Smith as the starting QB in the 49ers after Alex Smith went down with a concussion. He played so well, they benched Smith regardless of his health and continued to play Kapernick. The team went on to lose in the Superbowl to the Ravens. The following season they went on to lose the Conference championship to the future Superbowl champions, the Seahawks.

Now Kaep is most known for being the guy who started the trend of kneeling during the National Anthem, and since then that seems to be the only thing he is known for. All of his success, potential, and athletic ability or forgotten and now he can only ever be seen as the guy who dares not to stand for the national anthem. And because of it, Colin has been unable to find a job in the NFL after he opted out of his contract with the 49'ers. By no means does Kaep's recent performance in the NFL warrant him a starting job in the NFL, but any front office worth their salt would want to have a QB who played in a Superbowl to hold a clipboard over other players who have shown they are unable to hack it in the Professional league. Throughout this pre-season alone, there were numerous holes at the QB position that have been laughably filled with terrible players. The likes of Dan Orlasvky (Former Lion QB who ran into the back of his own end zone), Ryan Mallet (Notable bust), Joe Webb (who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL since 2011 and has played WR since), Mark Sanchez (butt fumble), Bryan Hoyer (below average game manager), Nick Foles (One year wonder), McCown (Completely inconsistent old man), Matt Barkley (lol), Geno Smith(Bust), Blaine Gabbart (bust), and Jay Cutler (a formally retired player who refuses to do cardio). All of these players were able to find jobs holding clipboards and in Cutler's case, start in the NFL.

The most notable reason as to why Kaep does not have an NFL job is mainly due to people speculating that Kaep and his peaceful protest is a "distraction" and that his talent and career statistics do not overshadow his distraction. Which ironically enough has become a distraction in itself. The Kaepernick saga has generated a buzz that has transcended the NFL and has slipped it's way into the mainstream news. Any team in need of either a backup or starting quarterback will be faced with scrutiny. They have to justify why they went with quarterback ___ over Colin Kaepernick. Signing and not signing Kaep has become a paradox that NFL teams cannot escape. ... *snip*
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First off lets talk about Kaep the football player ignore the protest part. Kaep is not starting quality QB nor does he have the potential to be anymore, so a team would only be looking at him as a backup. Hes a running QB, with low football IQ and a mediocre thrower. Players like that have success for a couple of years and then get hit/hurt, schemed for and fade away (Think RG3 or Vince Young). They dont become long term backups. So Kaep was already in a hole as far as that goes, because the backup QB role goes beyond skill.

Now when you add in the protest, doesnt matter what it is, any protest that draws attention adds even more red flags to signing him. As you mention teams dont care they only care when it hits the media. If no one noticed that Kaep was kneeling teams would ignore it they same way they ignored the other things.

Kaep's football profile is 90% of the reason he is not signed the public nature of the protest (not the protest itself) is the other 10%
 
Crovax said:
First off lets talk about Kaep the football player ignore the protest part. Kaep is not starting quality QB nor does he have the potential to be anymore, so a team would only be looking at him as a backup. Hes a running QB, with low football IQ and a mediocre thrower. Players like that have success for a couple of years and then get hit/hurt, schemed for and fade away (Think RG3 or Vince Young). They dont become long term backups. So Kaep was already in a hole as far as that goes, because the backup QB role goes beyond skill.

Now when you add in the protest, doesnt matter what it is, any protest that draws attention adds even more red flags to signing him. As you mention teams dont care they only care when it hits the media. If no one noticed that Kaep was kneeling teams would ignore it they same way they ignored the other things.

Kaep's football profile is 90% of the reason he is not signed the public nature of the protest (not the protest itself) is the other 10%
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Freaking Joe Webb has an NFL job as a backup QB and he literally hasn't thrown an NFL pass since 2011. And if we are going to talk players with poor football IQ and bad arms, Geno Smith, and Blaine freaking Gabbart are far worse but still have NFL jobs. But yeah, a QB who was two quarters away from a Superbowl ring doesn't stand a chance against the likes of Geno Smith.

The real reason why Kaep isn't signed is because the NFL doesn't like a player that cared to practice his first amendment right. And the same people that practice this faux outrage over Kaep are the same people who are absolutely silent when players who are genuinely terrible people still have NFL careers.
 
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