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MacGregor/Mayweather Who You Got and Did You Buy the Live Version?

My dad took me to Yankee Stadium to see Basilio vs Robinson at Yankee Stadium
in the 50's so I go way back the three I think are the best I've seen

1) Robinson
2) Duran
3) Salvatore Sanchez


1) Robinson---Lost middleweight title to pumped up welterweight Basilio. Still one of the greats, though. These old guys had an unbelievable number of fights.
2) Duran---My favorite at one time. Broke my heart when he quit against Leonard.
3) Salvatore Sanchez---I remember this guy and didn't realize he was only 23 when he died.
 
KOBIE'S 5 LEAST FAVORITE FIGHTERS TO WATCH:
1. Evander Holyfield
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4. Either Klitschko
5. George Foreman

Funny, since Floyd has beaten a lot of your favorite fighters. Some of those fights pure domination - Arturo Gatti for example.
 
1) Robinson---Lost middleweight title to pumped up welterweight Basilio. Still one of the greats, though. These old guys had an unbelievable number of fights.
2) Duran---My favorite at one time. Broke my heart when he quit against Leonard.
3) Salvatore Sanchez---I remember this guy and didn't realize he was only 23 when he died.

Sanchez was before my time, but his last fight apparently (as per Wikipedia) was a win over Azumah Nelson, who was a pretty goddamned good fighter too.
 
Funny, since Floyd has beaten a lot of your favorite fighters. Some of those fights pure domination - Arturo Gatti for example.

Did I say Gatti was better than Floyd? I said favorite to watch. Gatti was one of the hardest-working fighters out there, and round 9 of the first Gatti-Ward fight is one of the best rounds you'll ever see. It's like something out of a Rocky sequel.



Forgot, you're a frontrunner. Gatti was 35 when he fought Mayweather.
 
Did I say Gatti was better than Floyd? I said favorite to watch. Gatti was one of the hardest-working fighters out there, and round 9 of the first Gatti-Ward fight is one of the best rounds you'll ever see. It's like something out of a Rocky sequel.



Forgot, you're a frontrunner. Gatti was 35 when he fought Mayweather.


How about when Mayweather destroyed Victor Ortiz and Larry Merchant?

 
Did I say Gatti was better than Floyd? I said favorite to watch. Gatti was one of the hardest-working fighters out there, and round 9 of the first Gatti-Ward fight is one of the best rounds you'll ever see. It's like something out of a Rocky sequel.


I remember that fight.
Ward hit Gatti so hard with that bodyshot that Emmanuel Steward thought the fight was over.
Gatti was one of those fighters who wanted to be carried out of the ring on his shield.
 
How about when Mayweather destroyed Victor Ortiz

Yeah, great. What does that have to do with anything I posted? You're talking to yourself at this point.
 
Mayweathers professional prefight record: 49-0
MacGregors professional prefight record: 0-0

The Irishman did very well for himself.
 
Cotto's a magnificent fighter. I've always enjoyed watching him.

KOBIE'S 15 FAVORITE FIGHTERS TO WATCH (that he's seen), IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER:
1. Oscar De La Hoya
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Vintage Mike Tyson
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
6. Tommy Hearns
7. Miguel Cotto
8. Arturo Gatti
9. Mickey Ward
10. Vernon Forrest
11. Shane Mosley
12. Pernell Whitaker
13. Julio Cesar Chavez
14. David Tua (I just want to see that guy in a muumuu playing the ukelele)
15. Roy Jones Jr.

KOBIE'S 5 LEAST FAVORITE FIGHTERS TO WATCH:
1. Evander Holyfield
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
4. Either Klitschko
5. George Foreman

Holyfield was much more entertaining than Lewis

Lewis has such an inflated reputation. He is the same age as Tyson and Holyfield but he didn't fight either of them until they were washed up and over 35.
 
Correct,

Mayweather was either giving it 70-80% or he was seriously declined due to his old age.

MacGregor learned boxing is not "half fighting." It is an extremely difficult fighting sport.

My guess is Floyd let Connor punch himself out. It's a common tactic.
 
Wasn't that great of a fight. Credit to McGregor for sticking through ten rounds, but honestly having a UFC fighter take on the best modern boxer in a boxing match is not a fair match at all. At least it was better than Pacquiao fight.

Way past his prime best boxer. A young Floyd would have not even been hit once, IMO.
 
It's about what I suspected. Floyd let's Connor tire himself out and then just destroys him once the Irishman is exhausted.

 
I dont care for either of them but I predict that McGregor gets disqualified for kicking/grappling since he will instinctively revert to it when he cant take it anymore.

Then you'll like this:

 
This is the guy I always thought could take Mayweather:



Unfortunately he got mugged and then shot down. Vernon had the speed and definitely the power. Beat the crap out of Sugar Shane Mosely in his prime a couple times. Although he took on shane mosely twice he never got his big Mayweather or Oscar de la Hoya payday fight. He had the power and the speed to win.
 
I did not watch the fight as it happened. I did follow comments posted on the internet as it was going. By the end of the 3rd round without watching the fight I had figured out more or less what Mayweather was doing, after I kept reading posts he was hitting McGregor in the body.

At about 140 lbs sparring a seasoned amateur that weighed 190 and was known in the gym for his punching power, I took some heavy hits, but stayed aggressive, until those head shot caught up with me. They sapped my energy like someone sucking a soft drink through a straw. Incredible how it does that. Hard hits, not light girl taps "anyone can walk through."

But the worst hit I ever took from him was in a totally separate sparring session when he landed a body blow that sent me to one knee.

What I'm saying here is that I kind of figured out without watching the fight and just reading comments posted as the fight was going on, that Mayweather was planning on wearing McGregor down. I was not too wrong as after the fight was over he said that's the strategy he and his father mapped out.

But what some--a good number of people--don't comprehend about an essential feature to boxing (particularly professional level boxing) is that is about endurance. And they don't realize hard hits (not love taps) sap your energy. They think they only knock you out or otherwise you are in good condition. No, they do become draining. Just from head shots let alone body shots. Also draining is throwing punches whether you land or miss. That drains you too. Endurance is an essential feature of boxing.

(As a side note its an essential feature to US Marine Corps philosophy on a rifleman's conditioning, as well as US Marine Corps philosophy on "masculinity.")

Ideally you don't prepare for 5 rounds or 10 rounds but for the whole 12 rounds. That can mean, depending your opponent, you need to conserve energy and/or have respect for their abilities where they have them. If a person hits hard enough to sap your energy out before you get to the 12th round you might want to avoid his punches hitting you as best you can.






Not long after the fight was over various people--some from Russia--posted the full fight (and parts of the fight) up on youtube, but in low video quality. So, I saw the full fight albeit it in terrible video quality.

What I saw was a Floyd Mayweather that hits harder than a McGregor. And Floyd is not at his level of boxing a very hard hitter, but he still hits harder than supposedly the pound-for-pound hardest hitter in all of MMA. All before the fight MMA fans kept saying how Floyd Mayweather has never been in the ring with some with as much jaw dropping punching might as McGregor. And they kept saying McGregor could walk through anything Floyd shoots because he hits like a little girl and is not known for punching power. (Yeah, he is not known in professional boxing for punching power--the average Joe he would knock the hell out on the street.)

I will say McGregor did better than I expected. Albeit, Flyod was so composed as to look not concerned at all and intentionally pushed towards McGregor, so, inevitably that would make McGregor look better because it would me too against Floyd. But most importantly McGregor not only showed a lot of heart he also managed the anxiety of being depleted on energy and oxygen very well. He managed it better than I ever did. He demonstrated he is a professional fighter. And he has lots of courage.

McGregor is no Arturo Gatti when it comes to endurance but then few men are. At his age it's 99% chance unlikely that he could ever develop that kind of endurance if he switched over to professional boxing. But given "styles make fights" I think McGregor benefited from Floyd's patience. Had he been fighting someone like Sugar Shane Mosely I think he would have been KO'd between the 1st and 3rd rounds.
 
don't know how long it will last up on youtube but... full fight:

 
Way past his prime best boxer. A young Floyd would have not even been hit once, IMO.

Floyd didn't fight his typical defensive fight. Had he then McGregor would have landed very few if any shots at all. Floyd intentionally moved the fight to McGregor and allowed him to wail on him in the early rounds. To me... Floyd looked kind of like some of those seasoned amateur boxers I would spar in the ring and they willfully allowed me to hit them (although at times I got in my own hits without them trying to allow me) and they were not worried or concerned at all knowing my lesser experience and lesser ability.

I think Floyd respected McGregor enough in the ring that he was cautious that he could embarrassed if was too dismissive and arrogant and got caught slipping and knocked out. Other than that I did not see a Floyd looking concerned, even by the so-called "supernatural punching might" of Connor McGregor.

Boxing is analogous to humping a pack in the Army or Marine Corps for 30 miles as opposed to sprinting one city block. The former entails a lot of endurance. If McGregor hit as hard--as awe shockingly supernatural--as so many MMA fans claimed then his repeated blows on Floyd should have sucked Floyd's stamina, endurance, down to zero. Didn't happen. Floyd looked unfazed. It was McGregor who got his energy sapped from a light hitter in boxing.
 
This is my prediction for the fight.

McGregor is going to come out flailing furiously in a hail of punches hoping the quantity of the punches will result in one lucky one catching Mayweather. He won't land anything of note because actual top level boxers have been trying to do that for years and couldn't, let alone a non-boxer MMA fighter.

This will result in McGregor punching himself out fairly quickly and then it will be a boring fight because nothing is exiting about a fight where one fighter has their way with the other just because they are too tired.

I got this partially right. McGregor was much more controlled than what I thought he'd be but the fight didn't turn until he was tired and then Mayweather went after him after he couldn't defend himself very well. Pretty piss-poor, imo, for someone to run so much when he was in his own element.
 
McGregor's post fight explanation. Was actually quite humble and nice believe it or not.

 
I keep hearing about what happened in this fight, This happened that happened my theory is quite simple but it is only my theory.

When my cousin said MCGREGOR would win because he is younger and stronger I told her my theory on why he would lose.

1 No experience in boxing only armature.
2 Boxing is not the MMA NO SHORT ROUNDS
3And most important McGregor underestimated Mayweather a fatal mistake many fighters has made.
McGregor had he researched Mayweather would have known Mayweather is a boxer that hits without getting hit

As for being younger Ricky Hatten was a lot younger
As far as being stronger Oscar De Leoya was stronger:peace
 
Neither of those is true. Mayweather used this sneaky thing called tactics. MacGregor was only going to be dangerous two to three rounds. Mayweather covered up and let him punch. Once he had the patterns and timing down, Mayweather started throwing more, alot of body shots. And waited. Once Macgregor started to get gassed, Mayweather turned it up. Those first 3 rounds where not decline, nor only giving it 70 to 80 %, those where ensuring that he went 50-0.

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The event is over and more or less went the way many thought it would.

I hear the estimated purse for Mayweather is around 300 million. How is that possible? I know ringside seats were $10,000 but still $300 million for one fight. I guess I am weak in understanding the economics of pay for view. That is something like the total salary cap for a season of two NFL teams. It blows me away.
 
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