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Major League Baseball 2017

Then pick the authority you prefer.

I see you choose ‘authorities’ consistently in all aspects of debate on DP.

In this case, you’re sticking with a website called ‘difference between’ and is clearly a clickbait site.


Sad! But at least you’re consistent!
 
From your link:



Isnt that wrong?? I thought there were lots of Americans playing in Japan

Yes, it’s a crappy clickbait reference.

Just another datapoint to show which posters you can trust to supply accurate information.

Others just...don’t care.
 
But if that information is wrong, then maybe the larger ball part is as well??

In order for us to settle this we'll have to send DP forum representative to check this out in person :mrgreen:

I'm sorry I ever got into this. I was just trying to be helpful. It's not a subject I want to spend time on.
 
See, this is what I alluded to earlier. People are calling him the next Babe Ruth and he hasnt even played one inning of MLB yet. Wouldnt surprise me if he flopped even if he were completely healthy.

Japanese L. is comparable to Triple A ball, his numbers there were good, but not great:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=otani-000sho
Oh, relax.

The next Babe Ruth analogy is because he looks like a great two way player.

He should do great in the majors. He hits 500 foot HRs, and throws 100 MPH with control- either of those two things usually confer greatness in the majors
I know its only spring training, but so far Ive been proven right:

https://nypost.com/2018/03/09/shohei-ohtani-struggling-is-it-growing-pains-or-more-serious/

Shohei Ohtani struggling: Is it growing pains or more serious?

Billy Eppler refused to participate in the exercise. The Angels general manager saw no value in hypotheticals. He considered it “a waste of time and energy” to imagine a scenario in which Shohei Ohtani either failed to hit or to pitch at a quality level in the regular season and what would be done in reaction.

“I am not allowing my mind to go there,” Eppler said. “It is out of your control. You are spending energy on something that has not happened. It could. If it does, we’ll deal with it.”

Ninety minutes later, on a hot sunny Friday afternoon at Tempe Diablo Stadium, Ohtani started against the Tijuana Toros of the Mexican League and continued a spring training that only is going to foster more such questions and thoughts.

Ohtani not only lacked high-end velocity during three innings, hitting 95 mph a few times, but mainly settling in at 91-94 with command issues. He showed his terrific slider, but also plenty of hangers. In his third underwhelming Angels start, he induced an impressive 17 swings-and-misses, but also threw three wild pitches as former Mets catcher Rene Rivera had difficulty corralling balls in the dirt, in particular.

In all there were six runs in six innings on six hits against a lineup on which the most famous name was Jorge Cantu, who last played in the majors in 2011. Lefty Dustin Martin, batting third for the Toros, ambushed a first-pitch fastball for a homer in the first inning. If you remember that name, he was part of the package the Mets surrendered in July 2007 for Luis Castillo. Martin, a 26th-round pick in 2006, has never played in the majors.

For just about any other pitcher this all would have melted into the monotony of this time of year — and very well still might for Ohtani. But Ohtani, of course, is no ordinary pitcher, in part because he also is a hitter, a combination that makes him currently the most interesting man in baseball.

He spoke afterward about “taking the right steps forward,” but also adjusting to a spring training without days off, and with different mounds and a larger baseball than used in Japan. It is a reminder just how difficult what he is trying to do is. No player has regularly hit and pitched in the majors since Babe Ruth in 1919.

Ohtani is trying to do it at age 23. In a new league and new culture, surrounded by new teammates and large expectations. I assume 30 teams can’t be wrong, that his talent on both sides of the ball is exceptional and worth the rabid pursuit and willingness to change to a six-man rotation to better accommodate him.

But the hurdles also are exceptional. It is why I asked Eppler about the organization’s tolerance level should Ohtani struggle at one or both of these disciplines. Do they ask him to concentrate on one or the other, or even contemplate a minor league demotion?

For the Angels are not, say, the Reds or Tigers, a rebuilding squad that could have a long leash on failure in exchange for a player getting experience. Already, brilliant seasons of Mike Trout have been wasted without the Angels winning even a single playoff game in his tenure. Eppler has done a good job of surrounding Trout with a stronger roster in 2018. Part of that includes projecting Ohtani as a top-of-the-rotation difference-maker and impact lefty bat as a few-times-a-week DH
 
Watch him get lit up like a Christmas tree. He's only 23, and not established like Ichiro was, when he came over. Kid's gonna burn out, and then Scioscia will have to worry about which bad contract to bat DH....Ohtani or Pujols.
 
The best advice I ever got in fantasy baseball was to ignore spring training stats. And every time you think you can make an exception, make doubly sure to ignore them
I agree on that. But you said he had a 100MPH fastball which he doesnt have. He tops out at "only" 95MPH, and most of the time he hovers around 92 or 93. At that speed MLB hitters will tee off on him. His control isnt the greatest either, but that could be just nerves.

He does have a great slider though
 
I agree on that. But you said he had a 100MPH fastball which he doesnt have. He tops out at "only" 95MPH, and most of the time he hovers around 92 or 93. At that speed MLB hitters will tee off on him. His control isnt the greatest either, but that could be just nerves.

He does have a great slider though

His fastball is 95 in early March. In Spring Training...where he’s not pitching to win games, he’s pitching to tune up his stuff.

That doesn’t meant he can’t throw 100.
 
Until I began traveling to Phoenix during Spring Training season, I never knew how many people travel to see their team practice and play exhibition games. It really was eye-opening. Each week, half the plane is filled with Reds fans going to see their team. And, on Friday morning, when I drop off the rental car, the place is swamped with fans from all teams dropping off their vehicles.
 
That was in Japan, I want to see him do it in MLB

Me too!

Might have to actually go down to Comiskey this year (errr...I mean the ‘G-Spot’).


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Me too!

Might have to actually go down to Comiskey this year (errr...I mean the ‘G-Spot’)
There is nothing more amazing then watching a pitcher throw 100MPH.
I was at the Jays-Yankee game last August solely to watch Chapman pitch, but sadly he never made it into the game :(
 
There is nothing more amazing then watching a pitcher throw 100MPH.
That's 'cause you've never seen a shut out from Phil Niekro who could barely get to 85mph, yet still make batters look stupid with a vicious knuckleball. :)
 
That's 'cause you've never seen a shut out from Phil Niekro who could barely get to 85mph, yet still make batters look stupid with a vicious knuckleball. :)
I saw RA Dickey do that when he was with our Jays. Not quite as impressive as a 100+ MPH fastball, but I agree with you watching a knuckler dance is really cool. Its interesting that so few pitchers can throw one. You'd figure they'd be teaching classes on how to do it
 
I saw RA Dickey do that when he was with our Jays. Not quite as impressive as a 100+ MPH fastball, but I agree with you watching a knuckler dance is really cool. Its interesting that so few pitchers can throw one. You'd figure they'd be teaching classes on how to do it

The problem with "fireballers" nowadays is that they're so damn common. Look at my Cardinals...Mike Matheny (worst manager ever) slobbers over the fact that almost all of our pitchers can hit 95mph or higher. The problem is that they don't have the "stuff" to go with it. They're glorified pitching machines, and treated as such. Opposing batters will always catch up to even the fastest pitches if that's all they see. They just need to adjust their timing.

If I were a manager nowadays, my closer can't hit 90mph, but has the most wicked slider, curveball and a 75mph off-speed pitch. Batters would screw themselves into the ground swinging at that.
 
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