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Kaepernick Sits During National Anthem

Fletch said:
I will be honest, after that last dopey post of yours I wasn't expecting you to follow it up with a wave of brilliance, but this post is even dopier. If you cant grasp that a person taking "a big greasy ****" during the national anthem would be a clear example of hatred of America, then I am not sure upon what topic your opinion would be worth more than "a big greasy ****"
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But then again eco thinks you are racist just because you are a white person with power.
 
Bucky said:
Obama does that all the time.
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Obama does what? Talk about oppression? Last time I checked, he was neither a Fidel Castro fan nor subject of this conversation.
 
Another unarmed black man shot down with his hands up today...... Again Kaepernick proven right and the assclowns who criticize him proven to be idiots.
 
jdog said:
Another unarmed black man shot down with his hands up today...... Again Kaepernick proven right and the assclowns who criticize him proven to be idiots.
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He has a right to protest. But, this notion that cops are just indiscriminately shooting unarmed black men with their hands up is asinine.
 
calamity said:
He has a right to protest. But, this notion that cops are just indiscriminately shooting unarmed black men with their hands up is asinine.
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Yet it happens with dreadful frequency. It wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't a thing.

There's a delicious irony in a crowd who force people to stand up for a song about the land of the free.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Yet it happens with dreadful frequency. It wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't a thing.
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It's a perception thing. And, unfortunately the color of someone's skin is a telling indicator on how they perceive this issue.

To me, a white dude, the shootings in both Tulsa and Charlotte appeared justified. Tulsa because the guy was walking away from the cops against their orders and it looked like he dropped his right arm before being shot. In Charlotte, the guy had a gun.

To the protesters, mostly black people, both shootings are murder. They don't see the refusal to do as the cops ordered as a threat to them and insist his hands were up the whole time. They also insist the guy in Charlotte had a book not a gun.

What the hell can we do about that?

There's a delicious irony in a crowd who force people to stand up for a song about the land of the free.
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Yes. This is indeed true.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Yet it happens with dreadful frequency. It wouldn't be a thing if it wasn't a thing.

There's a delicious irony in a crowd who force people to stand up for a song about the land of the free.
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So long as it's just a crowd and not the government it's just people freely expressing themselves.
 
calamity said:
He has a right to protest. But, this notion that cops are just indiscriminately shooting unarmed black men with their hands up is asinine.
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Really? Google it and see how many videos you get. Now deduce how many never got filmed. The cops are trigger happy, and the people who defend them are just as guilty of each and every murder as the cops who pull the trigger.....
 
jdog said:
Really? Google it and see how many videos you get. Now deduce how many never got filmed. The cops are trigger happy, and the people who defend them are just as guilty of each and every murder as the cops who pull the trigger.....
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hogwash
 
calamity said:
It's a perception thing. And, unfortunately the color of someone's skin is a telling indicator on how they perceive this issue.

To me, a white dude, the shootings in both Tulsa and Charlotte appeared justified. Tulsa because the guy was walking away from the cops against their orders and it looked like he dropped his right arm before being shot. In Charlotte, the guy had a gun.

To the protesters, mostly black people, both shootings are murder. They don't see the refusal to do as the cops ordered as a threat to them and insist his hands were up the whole time. They also insist the guy in Charlotte had a book not a gun.

What the hell can we do about that?

Yes. This is indeed true.
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The police force as an institution is racist. They are taught through their policies and procedures to racially profile and use excessive force on blacks.

Those that do not see the police as a problem, are the problem. As long as we have this silent majority, the police will continue with their illegal ways.

How can we solve a problem when many in this country don't see it as a problem? In fact, in their perverse psychology, they believe blacks are the aggressor and the police are the defenseless.

If it was up to people like Calamity, the police would be given more power and more immunity.
 
Bucky said:
The police force as an institution is racist. They are taught through their policies and procedures to racially profile and use excessive force on blacks.

Those that do not see the police as a problem, are the problem. As long as we have this silent majority, the police will continue with their illegal ways.

How can we solve a problem when many in this country don't see it as a problem? In fact, in their perverse psychology, they believe blacks are the aggressor and the police are the defenseless.

If it was up to people like Calamity, the police would be given more power and more immunity.
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Yeah...it's the police who are burning down Charlotte and beating people up for no reason. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Yeah...it's the police who are burning down Charlotte and beating people up for no reason. :roll:
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It seems you are quick to point out when civilians are acting unruly but when a police commits murder you often see it as a defensible act.

If you are a racist, admit it. Countryboy and some of your friends have told me that "blacks need to clean up their act" and "they deserved it." Do you carry the same sentiment?
 
Bucky said:
It seems you are quick to point out when civilians are acting unruly but when a police commits murder you often see it as a defensible act.

If you are a racist, admit it. Countryboy and some of your friends have told me that "blacks need to clean up their act" and "they deserved it." Do you carry the same sentiment?
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There are a lot of good black people out there, most of them actually. But, the few of them who make it such that Blacks commit 50% of all the US homicides even though they are only 12% of the population...not so much.
 
calamity said:
There are a lot of good black people out there, most of them actually. But, the few of them who make it such that Blacks commit 50% of all the US homicides even though they are only 12% of the population...not so much.
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Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact they have no opportunities, they know they'll readily get pulled over by police despite doing nothing suspicious other than possessing their particular skin pigmentation, what of them had good manufacturing jobs now have squat. That couldn't possibly trigger thoughts of 'World doesn't give a $#!t about me, why should I gave a $#!t about the world' thought could it?

That's the Libertarian in you in which you shout responsibility as an all-important value, but instead of meaning actually taking responsibility by mitigating the fullest extent you can the negative externalities that come from one's business efforts on the community at large around one's business, you simply use net worth as the one and only valid metric of responsibility.

That about right?
 
DirtyRat said:
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact they have no opportunities, they know they'll readily get pulled over by police despite doing nothing suspicious other than possessing their particular skin pigmentation, what of them had good manufacturing jobs now have squat. That couldn't possibly trigger thoughts of 'World doesn't give a $#!t about me, why should I gave a $#!t about the world' thought could it?

That's the Libertarian in you in which you shout responsibility as an all-important value, but instead of meaning actually taking responsibility by mitigating the fullest extent you can the negative externalities that come from one's business efforts on the community at large around one's business, you simply use net worth as the one and only valid metric of responsibility.

That about right?
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Calamity has the same view as those that defended the actions of Nazis stating that their were a few bad Jews.

The blood is on the hands of Obama, the police, Hillary, and the establishment for enabling the cops. Things will change, believe that!
 
Bucky said:
Calamity has the same view as those that defended the actions of Nazis stating that their were a few bad Jews.

The blood is on the hands of Obama, the police, Hillary, and the establishment for enabling the cops. Things will change, believe that!
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Are you implying Trump will help Blacks by punishing cops?
 
DirtyRat said:
Couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact they have no opportunities, they know they'll readily get pulled over by police despite doing nothing suspicious other than possessing their particular skin pigmentation, what of them had good manufacturing jobs now have squat. That couldn't possibly trigger thoughts of 'World doesn't give a $#!t about me, why should I gave a $#!t about the world' thought could it?

That's the Libertarian in you in which you shout responsibility as an all-important value, but instead of meaning actually taking responsibility by mitigating the fullest extent you can the negative externalities that come from one's business efforts on the community at large around one's business, you simply use net worth as the one and only valid metric of responsibility.

That about right?
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Business is in the business to make money not provide social programs for people who cannot find jobs for one reason or another. If you lack the skills and education that a business demands, whose fault is it if you don't get hired?
 
calamity said:
Business is in the business to make money not provide social programs for people who cannot find jobs for one reason or another. If you lack the skills and education that a business demands, whose fault is it if you don't get hired?
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We're talking about people WORKING FOR THE BUSINESS.

If a business is only there to extract wealth from workers and customers and not provide a fair wage or decent product in return, then businesses are predatory, have a negative value to the communities they are in and should be banned from existing.
 
DirtyRat said:
We're talking about people WORKING FOR THE BUSINESS.

If a business is only there to extract wealth from workers and customers and not provide a fair wage or decent product in return, then businesses are predatory, have a negative value to the communities they are in and should be banned from existing.
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...or you can choose to spend your money elsewhere. I guess that's not good enough for you.
 
calamity said:
...or you can choose to spend your money elsewhere. I guess that's not good enough for you.
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I certainly do my best.

What business do you work for again, so I know not to do business there?
 
DirtyRat said:
I certainly do my best.

What business do you work for again, so I know not to do business there?
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lol...I suggest you not buy a car then. Walking is healthier anyway.
 
Apparently no one wants him now, which he is blaming on being according to him "Black Listed" though we all know that he is a loser and probably cant physically go a season as well but with this asshole you know..

I was thinking that if I was one of the NFL boses I would try to convince everyone that him not being part of the leauge is the right call, he did not care about how much he hurts the NFL brand so as a consequence the NFL Brand has no use for him.

Fair is Fair.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Apparently no one wants him now, which he is blaming on being according to him "Black Listed" though we all know that he is a loser and probably cant physically go a season as well but with this asshole you know..

I was thinking that if I was one of the NFL boses I would try to convince everyone that him not being part of the leauge is the right call, he did not care about how much he hurts the NFL brand so as a consequence the NFL Brand has no use for him.

Fair is Fair.
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He's not that important.
 
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