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Texas town denounces 'twisted and shameful' camp for migrant children

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Texas town denounces 'twisted and shameful' camp for migrant children

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A tent encampment to house children separated from their parents in Tornillo, Texas.

6/22/18
The white buses and vans swing off the highway and slow but do not stop as they trundle through the dusty, sunbaked streets of Tornillo. They have no markings, no sirens and you cannot discern the passengers, only silhouettes. They pass the cotton and alfalfa fields and bleached trailer homes of Aguilera road and vanish into a US border post ringed by a chain-link fence topped with barbed wire. When the vehicles emerge and return to El Paso they are empty. No one in this Texas desert hamlet sees or hears the several hundred children – migrants separated from their parents – who now inhabit a tent city which every day swallows new arrivals. Donald Trump’s immigration policy may be in chaos but this detention camp a stone’s throw from Mexico was built quickly and with a certain skill. It is all but invisible except by air. Some residents were outraged, saying infamy was being visited on their town. “It’s hard to believe it’s actually happening,” said Kathleen Bretz, 23, a mother of two boys. “It’s like we’re stepping back a hundred years with people put in this little camp, locking them up like animals. It’s twisted and shameful. It’s not right.” Claudia Eliaz, 35, a mother of three, said there was no justification for breaking up families. “It’s just horrible. And that it’s happening here in Tornillo …” Her voice trailed off.

Aerial images show federal authorities anticipated the consequences of the president’s “zero-tolerance” policy for illegal border crossings. Behind fences and tall mounds of dirt workers erected about 20 large tents on a parched field owned by the Department of Homeland Security. Each tent has bunk beds and capacity for 20 people. There is a medical clinic, a reception center and reportedly a cinema, all under canvas. Armed guards with body armor stand vigil around the perimeter. It added up, said Berta Ortiz, 48, a Tornillo resident, to disgrace. “This is bad for the children and bad for the town. We’re associated with this.” “There’s no indication about what will happen to those families that are already separated,” said Melissa Lopez, an immigration attorney who has been contracted to provide legal services to the Tornillo detainees. “We don’t know how long the children will be there.” Adolfo Lopez, another attorney who represents detained parents, said he operated in an information vacuum. “I had to tell parents I don’t know when you’re going to see your children again. They were devastated. It was something I wouldn’t wish on anyone.” The sheriff of El Paso has barred deputies from working off-duty at the camp lest it damage his force’s community relations.

Without doubt, one of the most cruel dark stains on America during my lifetime.
 
Texas town denounces 'twisted and shameful' camp for migrant children

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A tent encampment to house children separated from their parents in Tornillo, Texas.



Without doubt, one of the most cruel dark stains on America during my lifetime.

How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.
 
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How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's
all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

I’m guessing that is why he caveated it with “during my lifetime”.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

Ok, second mst shamegul in recent times, either way it is still shameful and regardless of what is eventually passed in Congress this has cost the GOP seats in Congress.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

And is quite the black eye on American history. We should probably not look to repeat it.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

Oh well, in that case then, I guess there's still some room to ratchet up the atrocity factor.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

Oh, OK. That makes everything much better now. As long as America did something similar before then it is quite permissible to separate children from their parents at the border now, you know, because there are fewer victims involved. We are so appreciative for you pointing that out.

What then is the numerical limit that we should be mindful of? Obviously 2,300 is piddling. Trump appears to plan on at least 20,000 children ripped away from their families and housed in kiddie jails. Is 20,000 close to the limit of being inhumane or is it closer to 50,000?

Oh, and is the inhumane threshold the same number for white children and babies as it is for non-white children and babies?

Thanks for straitening us out. You've been a big help.
 
I’m guessing that is why he caveated it with “during my lifetime”.

Maybe he's one of those people who asked Trump to repatriate their son's remains from the Korean War.
 
Maybe he's one of those people who asked Trump to repatriate their son's remains from the Korean War.

The only request I would ask of Donald Trump is that he step down before America is totally unrecognizable.

We're getting very close to unrecognizable with putting children in detention camps behind barbed wire.
 
The only request I would ask of Donald Trump is that he step down before America is totally unrecognizable.

We're getting very close to unrecognizable with putting children in detention camps behind barbed wire.

The rate of change is amazing. Two years ago this degree of dishonesty in the White House would be called impossible- now, it's become the new normal.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

So, because Japanese were rounded up and we turned Anne Frank down for asylum that makes it ok? Shouldnt we learn from our mistakes?
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

That was a horrible policy. The problem is, you are using it as a "Dems did it too so it's acceptable!" rather than a lesson.
 
Well, they can always be put on a flight back to whichever country their parents illegally brought them to ours from. That's a fair option.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

As bad as the Japanese internment was, and it was awful, we DID NOT SEPARATE children from their parents. This will be Trump's undoing. When small towns in Texas (READ DEEP RED) start turning on you, you have a very serious problem.
 
'Dumb, stupid' family separations harm children, says detention camp manager

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The Tornillo, Texas child detention facility

6/25/18
A senior manager at a child detention camp in Texas, close to the Mexican border, spoke out on Monday to decry Donald Trump’s zero-tolerance immigration policy that had been tearing migrant families apart as “dumb”. Speaking to journalists in what he said was an individual capacity, at the end of a special, supervised media tour of the facility in Tornillo, near El Paso, Texas, the manager, who asked not to be named, called family separations “a dumb, stupid decision”. “All it did was harm children,” he said. The manager works for the private contractor BCFS, which is running the camp on behalf of the federal government. In sweltering heat in the dusty little town, where fencing keeps the camp of neat brown tents mostly out of sight of the public, the manager said: “I’m totally against the separation.” The contractor BCFS Health and Human Services is based in San Antonio, Texas, and is a contractor regularly used by the Department of Health and Human Services and other federal government agencies.

Sheriff Deputies of El Paso County have refused to moonlight as security guards at the Tornillo detention facility.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States during World War II was the forced relocation and incarceration in camps in the western interior of the country of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry, most of whom lived on the Pacific coast.

He said "one of" the most.

Words matter.
 
How old are you?

Ask the Japanese "Americans" how thing went when FDR rounded them and put them in relocation camps. US citizens grabbed for no reason. You have a very selective outrage. And it's all aimed at the Trump administration all the time.

I think a better question is: How old does Common Sense 1 think the average DP poster is?
 
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"dark stain"

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Leftists apparently slept through the 8 years of the Obama administration. But by golly they have found their poutrage. I think its fairly obvious where that 'dark stain' is coming from.
 
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"dark stain"

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Leftists apparently slept through the 8 years of the Obama administration. But by golly they have found their poutrage. I think its fairly obvious where that 'dark stain' is coming from.


So much for all that garbage about Democrats being for open borders.
 
Texas town denounces 'twisted and shameful' camp for migrant children

85

A tent encampment to house children separated from their parents in Tornillo, Texas.



Without doubt, one of the most cruel dark stains on America during my lifetime.


You don't think this is so much better than where they came from? At least they are safe. I saw this shown on the news, but they showed a bunch of kids playing basketball. That doesn't push the sympathy button though, does it.
 
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"dark stain"

View attachment 67235068

Leftists apparently slept through the 8 years of the Obama administration. But by golly they have found their poutrage. I think its fairly obvious where that 'dark stain' is coming from.


Wow. That makes the current set up look like paradise!
 
You don't think this is so much better than where they came from? At least they are safe. I saw this shown on the news, but they showed a bunch of kids playing basketball. That doesn't push the sympathy button though, does it.

March yourself down there and ask them in person. "Do you want to be here or with your parents?"

And before you scream illegals, requesting asylum at Ports of Entry (any ingress or egress crossing) is neither illegal nor a crime.
 
So much for all that garbage about Democrats being for open borders.

Except those children after being thrown in those horror internment camps like unto the Jews by the Nazi Obama administration (do I have the rhetoric right?) were later released into this country, just as the catch and release policy did the same with families.
 
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